Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Well, you are obviously are in the minority on that. It’s the number one selling M3 of all time. As an outsider, I think the G 80 is incredibly beautiful from all angles. Most people I know do also. As far as Tesla goes, most people, I ask, don’t have an opinion either way only those in the fad seem to have opinions on them. I also don’t think it’s just Tesla that’s ugly. Every freaking fully electric vehicle I have seen on the market with the exception of this really awesome looking Audi are all ugly as shit. It’s almost as if they set ugly as a guideline for all electric vehicles.

Now this is a good looking EV. If I didn’t already have an M5 on its way, I might look at getting this Audi. I suspect it’s well-built also unlike Tesla.
https://www.audiusa.com/us/web/en/mo.../overview.html

I can’t tell if this was sarcastic or not? The G8X is probably the most universally agreed upon ugly cars bmw has ever built. You will rarely find any sort of review or commentary that doesn’t mention its terrible front end. Aside from those that actually own the car, I don’t think I have ever seen anyone comment they thought it was a beautiful car.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

I can’t tell if this was sarcastic or not? The G8X is probably the most universally agreed upon ugly cars bmw has ever built. You will rarely find any sort of review or commentary that doesn’t mention its terrible front end. Aside from those that actually own the car, I don’t think I have ever seen anyone comment they thought it was a beautiful car.

Lmaooooo

I have a g80 and it’s ugly. I like the rear hips and the way it looks from the side. All other angles look like poo. The F80 is so much nicer looking but too old for me to get. At least the s58 is a beast lol

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Unless a new power pack is thought of, it's a high tech world.

Don’t worry you guys still have time.

Because 2030 is not that far away and people will be shitting bricks in 2035 when everyone is like, “I fucking can’t believe this happened. I thought EV was just a phase.”

Lmao

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

I can’t tell if this was sarcastic or not? The G8X is probably the most universally agreed upon ugly cars bmw has ever built. You will rarely find any sort of review or commentary that doesn’t mention its terrible front end. Aside from those that actually own the car, I don’t think I have ever seen anyone comment they thought it was a beautiful car.

Universality agreed upon??? Lol. Yeah by old hardline BMW extremist. Every G80 owner I know absolutely loves how his car looks. I’ve met probably 10. There are hundreds of guys on this forum that love it. Sales prove that people love them. Only a moron would buy a car that expensive that they think is ugly. Well not just morons. People with an extreme amount of money that they don’t give a crap. I love when people think because they feel a certain way everyone does. I guess that means since I hate the Kansas City Chiefs, everyone in the world hates them

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Universality agreed upon??? Lol. Yeah by old hardline BMW extremist. Every G80 owner I know absolutely loves how his car looks. I’ve met probably 10. There are hundreds of guys on this forum that love it. Sales prove that people love them. Only a moron would buy a car that expensive that they think is ugly. Well not just morons. People with an extreme amount of money that they don’t give a crap. I love when people think because they feel a certain way everyone does. I guess that means since I hate the Kansas City Chiefs, everyone in the world hates them

Well, I disagree with you about almost everything, but I mostly agree with you here.

I do think the grille was made to be a statement and could have been done in a more attractive way. However, I don't think it's the travesty that everyone makes it out to be. I also learned a long time ago to withhold judgment on automotive designs for about a decade. The E85/E86 Z4, for example, was widely panned on release but the flame surfacing has aged extremely well.

Obviously, nothing in design and art is universally agreed upon. I have bought cars I thought were ugly though just because the rest of the car outweighed the looks.

[x622]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Universality agreed upon??? Lol. Yeah by old hardline BMW extremist. Every G80 owner I know absolutely loves how his car looks. I’ve met probably 10. There are hundreds of guys on this forum that love it. Sales prove that people love them. Only a moron would buy a car that expensive that they think is ugly. Well not just morons. People with an extreme amount of money that they don’t give a crap. I love when people think because they feel a certain way everyone does. I guess that means since I hate the Kansas City Chiefs, everyone in the world hates them

Riveting tale chap, but nobody cares. Of course the people who bought big sniffs like them, that's why they bought them. This doesn't make it look good. I personally laugh every single time I see one, and what's even worse is the damn i7's. I saw one a few days ago behind me and had to do a double take at how terrible it looked.



It looked just like this. Dukec belongs on a cross.

I will say at least it's not a refrigerator from big hero 6.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by x622

Riveting tale chap, but nobody cares. Of course the people who bought big sniffs like them, that's why they bought them. This doesn't make it look good. I personally laugh every single time I see one, and what's even worse is the damn i7's. I saw one a few days ago behind me and had to do a double take at how terrible it looked.



It looked just like this. Dukec belongs on a cross.

I will say at least it's not a refrigerator from big hero 6.

OK sport.

Nobody really cares what you think either especially BMW. They laughing all the way to the bank. Sales are high and they’re bringing in new people and as far as they’re concerned, it’s worth a handful of old timers, whining like adolescent children whose parents won’t stop at the ice cream shop on the way home. So laugh away champ.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Don’t worry you guys still have time.

Because 2030 is not that far away and people will be shitting bricks in 2035 when everyone is like, “I fucking can’t believe this happened. I thought EV was just a phase.”

Lmao

A lot can happen in seven years, with a public backlash new gas cars could still be sold after 2030 I'm hoping and the EV programme will be partially shelved because of unrealistic power demands from the National Grid.

[Socal_R8]

Originally Posted by Patton250

OK sport.

Nobody really cares what you think either especially BMW. They laughing all the way to the bank. Sales are high and they’re bringing in new people and as far as they’re concerned, it’s worth a handful of old timers, whining like adolescent children whose parents won’t stop at the ice cream shop on the way home. So laugh away champ.

you keep going back to sales numbers to justify what people like and yet you drag Teslas for being ugly yet the Model 3 out sold the 3 series by 3-1 in 2021 and the gap continues to get wider...

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

you keep going back to sales numbers to justify what people like and yet you drag Teslas for being ugly yet the Model 3 out sold the 3 series by 3-1 in 2021 and the gap continues to get wider...

No not at all. I admit I’m in the minority when it comes to hating the looks of all Tesla’s. G80 haters here won’t admit they are in the minority. I’ve been consistent. Tesla sales have been great, people love them and I hate them. (I love Elon though). G80 sales are great, people love them and you hate them.

Simple

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Patton250

No not at all. I admit I’m in the minority when it comes to hating the looks of all Tesla’s. G80 haters here won’t admit they are in the minority. I’ve been consistent. Tesla sales have been great, people love them and I hate them. (I love Elon though). G80 sales are great, people love them and you hate them.

Simple

Looks are obviously subjective, but I can promise the majority of people think the g80 looks like poo. Everyone? Of course not. But man have you not read a single review of the car or taken a spin through these message boards?

As far a sales numbers, I certainly don’t think that is the best way to judge the looks of any vehicle. Especially in the lease environment of the last 10+ years, people will get the newest model in 3 years or less no matter what. Every new model should outsell the prior one because cars are now disposable items.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Looks are obviously subjective, but I can promise the majority of people think the g80 looks like poo. Everyone? Of course not. But man have you not read a single review of the car or taken a spin through these message boards?

As far a sales numbers, I certainly don’t think that is the best way to judge the looks of any vehicle. Especially in the lease environment of the last 10+ years, people will get the newest model in 3 years or less no matter what. Every new model should outsell the prior one because cars are now disposable items.

I have read plenty of reviews online and comments here. Both are such a microcosm of actual total numbers. My dealership says they have mad more enthusiasm about the G80 the the F80. Also way more sales guys there are ordering a G80 for personal use then the F80. BMW changed the grille. All the rest looks the same. It’s not ugly it’s just different. MOST people think uniformity is ugly. Apparently not long time BMW enthusiasts. Well times are changing. BMW obviously is looking for new blood and it’s working.

[Socal_R8]

Originally Posted by Patton250

No not at all. I admit I’m in the minority when it comes to hating the looks of all Tesla’s. G80 haters here won’t admit they are in the minority. I’ve been consistent. Tesla sales have been great, people love them and I hate them. (I love Elon though). G80 sales are great, people love them and you hate them.

Simple

I don't hate them, thought the F series was much cleaner, but the new M3 and M4 aren't bad...that 7 series is probably the ugliest car on the road atm though.

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Do you think they might come up with a different technology for EV batteries? I really am ignorant on this subject so be easy on me.

I did know there was lots of environmental damage from mining materials for EV batteries. I just didn’t know if this material was the only thing they could use for the foreseeable future.

There are several alternate chemistries and overall approaches being used and developed. It's coming, the question is when and how well it will work. THere is a version that uses Iron, but it has worse range (density), so you need more of the other elements like lithium for a given power capacity, which requires mining more of these other elements which themselves come with their own source issues.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I have read plenty of reviews online and comments here. Both are such a microcosm of actual total numbers. My dealership says they have mad more enthusiasm about the G80 the the F80. Also way more sales guys there are ordering a G80 for personal use then the F80. BMW changed the grille. All the rest looks the same. It’s not ugly it’s just different. MOST people think uniformity is ugly. Apparently not long time BMW enthusiasts. Well times are changing. BMW obviously is looking for new blood and it’s working.

I’ve asked my salesman who is also good friend of mine how well G8x are selling. He said he didn’t have specific numbers, but due to the supply chain issues they have definitely gotten less G8x allocations compared to similar timeframe in F8x lifecycle. What G8x allocations they do get sell quickly. Although apparently verts are getting tough to sell. Unfortunately BMW no longer provides individual sales data, just a generic M sales number that now includes all the M-lite models.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

A lot can happen in seven years, with a public backlash new gas cars could still be sold after 2030 I'm hoping and the EV programme will be partially shelved because of unrealistic power demands from the National Grid.

No one said in 2030 ice cars would magically disappear.

Not many car makers are wasting time going with hybrids, a lot of them are going straight to ev.

Hell gm just introduced a new v8 that’ll go into the c9 generation. But most likely a hybrid so ice will still be around but they’ll be hanging by a thread.

You have time to find your best ice car and hold onto it when all new car sales will be ev. There’s still time.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Looks are obviously subjective, but I can promise the majority of people think the g80 looks like poo. Everyone? Of course not. But man have you not read a single review of the car or taken a spin through these message boards?

As far a sales numbers, I certainly don’t think that is the best way to judge the looks of any vehicle. Especially in the lease environment of the last 10+ years, people will get the newest model in 3 years or less no matter what. Every new model should outsell the prior one because cars are now disposable items.

And model 3/y’s continue to soar in annual sales for being such a “boring and ugly” car.

The g80/g82 sell well because it’s still new lol. New cars always sell. Wait until the back half of its life cycle, which is now?

People will be waiting for the next gen m3/m4 or upgrading to m5’s which is what I’m gonna do lol

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

how the fuck is the g8x the best selling m3/m4 of all time, when the fucking production isn't even over, and was introduced in a massive supply chain problem...yall will say anything on this forum...

why the fuck we aruging about children mining shit. we all buy diamonds and kids sewing our nikes and making our iphones.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

how the fuck is the g8x the best selling m3/m4 of all time, when the fucking production isn't even over, and was introduced in a massive supply chain problem...yall will say anything on this forum...

why the fuck we aruging about children mining shit. we all buy diamonds and kids sewing our nikes and making our iphones.

Look, I don’t normally recommend this because people are stupid enough before they drink, but I think you should have a drink. Either that or take a lorazepam.

You’re welcome

Edit-never mind. I just realized you’re from Philadelphia. That explains everything. However, I still recommend the lorazepam. Definitely don’t drink.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Look, I don’t normally recommend this because people are stupid enough before they drink, but I think you should have a drink. Either that or take a lorazepam.

You’re welcome

Edit-never mind. I just realized you’re from Philadelphia. That explains everything. However, I still recommend the lorazepam. Definitely don’t drink.

thats just the way I talk, at least I don't spew bullshit to prove my pointless "point" on a internet forum. but great personal attack when your shit was called out. its okay buddy. your judgements and telling people to take benzos are a clear indication how you think

[chris719]

The split headlights are 10x worse than the grilles. Like, what the hell are they doing there? The bottom lights are just basic circular light sources, it looks like they spent all of the money on the upper lights and ran out for the bottom.

[Conissah]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

And model 3/y’s continue to soar in annual sales for being such a “boring and ugly” car.

I think you're forgetting that a lot (if not most) people aren't buying Tesla's b/c they want an EV, they buy them b/c it's a status symbol.

That's like saying some Yeezy shoes outsold your run of the mill Adidas. That doesn't mean the Yeezy is a better shoe...