2020-202x Toyota Supra

[RMachuca3d]

Originally Posted by Towerworld

Not impressive at all, the camaro ss is better in every way and costs 10k less.

Have you sat in one?

Interior was such a huge turn off, felt cheaper to me than even the mustang GT.

[Towerworld]

Originally Posted by RMachuca3d

Have you sat in one?

Interior was such a huge turn off, felt cheaper to me than even the mustang GT.

Felt ok alot of hard plastics but main touch points were fine, not much of a downgrade from entry level bmw's tbh. The biggest problem was total lack of side visibility and no sunlight in cabin.

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by RMachuca3d

Have you sat in one?

Interior was such a huge turn off, felt cheaper to me than even the mustang GT.

Are you sure you didn't get in the 86 or are you talking about the Camaro? Although the Supra is not as nice as my F10, the car felt way nicer than my former e92

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

I won't possibly be a buyer on one until next year anyway. I'm looking at a vasy array of different cars toward next fall.

New BRZ, new STi (have to see what the specs end up being on both), see what prices do on a C7 Grand Sport, maybe a Camaro SS 1LE, Mustnag GT PP2, see if EcuTek cracks the 19+ Miata ECU so that Edlebrock will develop a new supercharger for it, etc.

It's definitely a great time to be an enthusiast!

[supra93]

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-manual-...han-we-thought

Including the availability of a warranty.

San Antonio-base tuner European Auto Group caught the world's attention earlier this year when it announced the first-ever manual-swapped fifth-generation Toyota Supra. EAG has already successfully created the world's only manual Ferrari 430 Scuderia and is in the process of building a manual 458 Italia, so it's well up to the task.

EAG owner Art Bartosik gave CarBuzz an exclusive update on how the build is going and to announce more details about what customers can expect from the swap. This won't just be a stock Supra with a manual gear lever, EAG is redesigning the entire dashboard to work with the new transmission.

"Currently, the interior is in the design phase with a preliminary sketch completed to a final rendering. Our designer is currently in Korea working with composite engineers to bring the center console to life in the same factory carbon fiber finish. The buttons for the lane assist, traction, auto stop/start, and the parking brake will be relocated and redeveloped into the new console," Bartosik says.

"The A/C controls will be moved back into the dash another 2.5 inches to make gears one, three, and five easier to access without hitting the display and controls. The driver's side angled knee guard will be cut back and replaced with a new piece matching the interior," he adds. Bartosik also addressed the shift knob, which he promised would look like the unit found on the Toyota GR HV Sports concept.

"The shift knob you see [in the rendering] is just generic, as we will work on a custom knob with a flip-up button for sport mode, which will be available later on as an option called 'The Concept Shifter.'"

As for all of the car's modern software, EAG has "acquired the newest version of BMW Diagnostic and Programming software and has found that the modules can be seamlessly retrofitted to a manual transmission. The car will have all other electronics and communication with all required sensors so the buttons and functions will work as intended from the factory," Bartosik promises.

In addition to a sketch and a nice rendering, EAG also provided a picture of a cutout next to the brake pedal (for the clutch pedal) and a picture showing the recess for the clutch master cylinder rod. The clutch assembly, clutch master cylinder, and lines are all factory OEM BMW components and aside from the custom center console, all parts will be sourced directly from BMW. Part of the research development for the hydraulic lines is being performed by UK-based Hydra-Test and the first transmission was sourced from Sussex Auto Parts.

Of course, this is still a modified car, meaning Toyota's three-year/36,000-mile warranty will be out the window. Fortunately, EAG says it will offer one-, two-, and three-year bumper-to-bumper warranties on the transmission swap and other major items like the alternator. Wear and tear items like the brakes and clutch won't be covered but "if Toyota doesn't pick up the warranty, then EAG will," says Bartosik.

As for allocations, EAG says it will perform 16 swaps in the next 12 months and "if demand is higher we will request more transmissions." Build slots are available now with a $6,000 deposit and a total cost of $12,000. This may sound like a lot of money just for a manual transmission, but as you can see, there is more work being done here and you will end up with one of the only fifth-gen manual Supras in the world. The builds are slated to begin after the 2019 SEMA show in November.

Bartosik anticipates the Supra build slots will go quickly and mentions that EAG has received calls for more Ferrari manual swaps and even the new C8 Chevrolet Corvette. "It looks like kids do want what their fathers and grandfathers enjoyed as car enthusiasts," he says, referring to driving a manual transmission car. Perhaps if there is enough demand, EAG will answer enthusiast's prayers by applying its manual-swapping skills on the new Corvette.

[FuriouslyFast]

Supra is a car that should be in the $30s IMO

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

Supra is a car that should be in the $30s IMO

You're trolling. It takes on the $59,000 M2C for less money. Tell me where the '335hp' hurt you

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by supra93

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-manual-...han-we-thought

Nice drawing, but that isn't the "stereo". That is the climate controls panel.

[34BRP53]

I do not like current models of all brands, oldest models are the best...

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

Supra is a car that should be in the $30s IMO

The BASE Supra, in 1996, was a $40K car. How the f**k do you justify the new Supra, 24 years later, to cost LESS than last generation car?

Inconceivable.

[supra93]

Even with inflation it's still a cheaper car.

2019
Base: $49,990
Premium: $53,990

1993
NA: $33,900
Tubro: $39,900

MKIV with inflation
NA: $60,189
Tubro: $70,841

Anyways, another youtube video.

[Socal_R8]

finally saw one in person the other day.... thought I might like it better if I saw it in person.

sorry to say, I wasn't impressed......its just not a very good looking car at all imo.

[D22M2]

Sat in one last week - very nice, perfect size too - nice and small!

Aesthetically not my style but could be subject to change once I get to drive one

[gatorfast]

Wish it came with a manual trans

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Wish it came with a manual trans

You can get one with a manual trans, but it wont be factory. The same shop that is converting 458's to manual is going to be doing the Supra also.

[Humdizzle]

lmao i watched that mustang GT video.... the supra is slower than a civic type R around the track. wtf

[See5]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

lmao i watched that mustang GT video.... the supra is slower than a civic type R around the track. wtf

The CTR is a very quick car on the track. That’s what its known for.

Pretty sure SportAuto ran identical times in the CTR and M2 at the Ring.

[supra93]

[super51fan]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...he-718-cayman/

Car and Driver compares the Supra to the M2C, GT350, and Cayman,

Spoiler:

1. GT350
2. Supra
3. Cayman
4. M2C

[irontitan]

Impressive video.

[kaputt]

Originally Posted by super51fan

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...he-718-cayman/

Car and Driver compares the Supra to the M2C, GT350, and Cayman,

Spoiler:

1. GT350
2. Supra
3. Cayman
4. M2C

So Car and Driver basically thinks the M240i or Z4 is better than the M2?

Considering the Supra is a BMW, I have a hard time believing the steering feels different than the M2s...

[super51fan]

Originally Posted by kaputt

So Car and Driver basically thinks the M240i or Z4 is better than the M2?

Considering the Supra is a BMW, I have a hard time believing the steering feels different than the M2s...

I dont know where youre drawing the conclusion to formulate your first question.

I dont see why it wouldn't have a better steering feel considering it had two companies involved in the process instead of just one.