F1 2021: Spanish GP - Barcelona (May 9)

MKSixer · 05-09-2021, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

..and nearly all the rest were lapped so..it's the car not the driver and lets remember Russell in the 44 car..again in the desert

Your man VER cannot make tires last as long.

Sir Lewis Hamilton IS a strategic advantage. He opens options that will not exist with other drivers.

Come on 2022...this is why Sir Lewis will be a competitive advantage in the initial and continual development of the new cars.

yco · 05-09-2021, 11:28 AM

yet another World-Class drive from Lewis!

and Lewis actually overtook all other podium drivers again in a row.. anyone noticed?

Bottas was purely racing with Lewis..

putting in consecutive fast laps without a breath.. and he made a smart move by yielding at the start.. it was a cheeky move a bit but still under racing terms..

Max said.. Red Bull is behind Merc'.. WRONG..
they re dealing with Lewis' magic now that Bottas cant pull off.. Max is waaaay faster than Bottas at the moment.. RB is not a slower car at all..

Max was pulling away in opening part of the race..
up until now.. RB was slightly ahead we ll see in future races again.. BUT.. Bottas is already nowhere.. and i believe he used his last credit today.. by not letting Lewis past.. well.. he cant compete with Lewis after many years, and not being a team player.. i guess one stuff like this will put Bottas' Merc' career in jeopardy.. 100% wont be a smart move for Bottas if he does..

RB was quite good this weekend.. and yeah having a record of the fastest pitstop ever doesnt guarantee you ll pull perfect pitstop when it really matters.. Max really had a chance this week.. even if it was a cheeky move, he used his chance at the start with some help from extra laid rubber on his side..

even i was telling that RB should have pitted 10-15 laps before ending the race.. eventhough they didnt react when Lewis made his second pitstop..for giving Max to chance to catch up Lewis by fresher and faster soft tires.. and Red Bull blew it.. if it continue going like this for few more races in this season.. and if i d not fully believe RB good in new regs next year.. i d leave RB.. but one thing is sure.. Max's ego wont be boosted nowhere near like in RB in other teams.. so probably considering this.. it was Max' 100th race.. there are much more younger drivers at the grid already.. time is running..

Leclerc.. that young fella again silently put his car to the best place possible.. AGAIN..

Ric is definitely not comfy in the car still.. no way he could be past like this from outside after a long straight.. he needs help urgently!

Alonso's fans and of course Alonso himself is so disappointed by this race.. cause he was beaten again from a teammate that not even in his league.. its tough..

it felt like Mazepin was lapped like 20 times during the race.. always there was a HAAS car to be lapped.. it was annoying..

and lastly.. best overtake was for Perez this race.. he didnt have a perfect weekend but definitely he show how much potential he has inside by that outside overtaking action.. it was one of the best in recent years.. well done Checo!

M5Rick · 05-09-2021, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tdott

I'm sure you would like to believe that. But the laptimes shows that he held him up.

A well rehearsed manoeuvre to convince the crowd it looks realistic

You know it and I know it.

///M Power-Belgium · 05-09-2021, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hammy back a bit now and I'm wondering about that magic battery boost my friend....

Mercedes won the race by superior pitstop strategy and the W12 in warp-speed .
MAX showed his amazing racecraft by overtaking HAM in turn-1 , but once again Red Bull screwed it up with the timing of the pitstop strategy .
MAX ran the fastest lap with the softs to reduce the damage .

MAX latest : Over the whole race the Mercedes pace was overall untouchable ...
Useless to say , the Mercedes was faster !

This season isn't over yet , and hopefully Red Bull can catch it up ...

The ranking :

msk340i · 05-09-2021, 11:48 AM

For the first time in I don’t know how long I didn’t even wake up to watch a race. Looks like I didn’t miss much. I doubt that the rest of the season will be any different. I’ll wait until 2022.

SenorFunkyPants · 05-09-2021, 12:21 PM

What a brilliant race from Hamilton...no one can manage their tyres as well as LH.
Verstappen in particular seems to burn his tyres up faster than most.

Red Bull will be looking to bribe even more Mercedes personnel into joining their team...they don't seem to have the level of talent needed to win races.
Not least a better strategist and a better lead driver.

M5Rick · 05-09-2021, 12:27 PM

^ Yup the other 85 that they missed out will soon come, RB have plenty of money. Look how very close they are now,

///M Power-Belgium · 05-09-2021, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yes my friend, we have to take on board in the situation as it stands that it gets worse before it gets better and as you said with Checo not even with BOT then if he doesn't get better the more adaptable ex Haas guy in waiting can be pressed into action to back up the constructors to stem Merc from running away more.

And this from a Dutch article :
According the "latest from today : "Mercedes would deliberately drive with a pulled handbrake on" ?!?!
Honestly , I don't know what I should think about it ...

M5Rick · 05-09-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

And this from a Dutch article :
According the "latest from today : "Mercedes would deliberately drive with a pulled handbrake on" ?!?!
Honestly , I don't know what I should think about it ...

BOT to hammy: ''how many more times do I have to let you pass''

rcracin · 05-09-2021, 12:43 PM

It’s nice getting to see Ham put his skills to work.

///M Power-Belgium · 05-09-2021, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rcracin

It’s nice getting to see Ham put his skills to work.

The Mercedes W12 warp-speed as well ...

///M Power-Belgium · 05-09-2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

BOT to hammy: ''how many more times do I have to let you pass''

"IF" BOT runs with equal Merc machinery ,BOT isn't worth it to get his Merc seat and I would kick his Finnish A$$ today !

EDIT : Checo messed it up as well..

racerbruce · 05-09-2021, 01:03 PM

Who will own today's bumbled VER debacle of a pitstop??

Helmut Marko has clarified why the pit stop of Max Verstappen lasted more than four seconds during the Spanish Grand Prix. According to the Red Bull Racing advisor, there was a misunderstanding between Gianpiero Lambiase and the Limburg driver during the first stint at the Barcelona circuit. After that Marko saw that the RB16B was a lot slower than Mercedes on the mediums.

"Max came in uninvited. But our people reacted fantastically, especially because he came in at the last minute. It was a misunderstanding," Marko told ORF when asked about Verstappen's first pit stop of the race. Lambiase had said over the banking radio that the Dutchman should come in on the next lap. "Verstappen meant this lap, somehow it was misunderstood," he said.

M5Rick · 05-09-2021, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

"IF" BOT runs with equal Merc machinery ,BOT isn't worth it to get his Merc seat and I would kick his Finnish A$$ today !

I know what you're saying but I honestly believe it's not through lack of trying, we must remember Russell in the 44 car. Oh it's equal-ish machinery alright just why oh why is he not brought in for tyres in such a way as to make him compatible to challenge for race win and he's just kept hanging on back there in case he's needed.

M5Rick · 05-09-2021, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

"IF" BOT runs with equal Merc machinery ,BOT isn't worth it to get his Merc seat and I would kick his Finnish A$$ today !

EDIT : Checo messed it up as well..

If I was Christian there's got to be a marked improvement in Checo in the next one and up to speed in the one after or it's in the office for a tete a tete about what happens next.

///M Power-Belgium · 05-09-2021, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

If I was Christian there's got to be a marked improvement in Checo in the next one and up to speed in the one after or it's in the office for a tete a tete about what happens next.

Checo was already seeking for excuses regarding his bad qualifying !
Checo said : My left left shoulder hurts...

And this while Checo runs with equal 16-B machinery !
The real issue is : Once you are MAX's teammate ....

M5Rick · 05-09-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Checo was already seeking for excuses regarding his bad qualifying !
Checo said : My left left shoulder hurts...

And this while Checo runs with equal 16-B machinery !
The real issue is : Once you are MAX's teammate ....

Is it the same excuses in your firm, they ring in and this and that hurts,with fitness levels and training in F1 it doesn't seem to affect Max.

MKSixer · 05-09-2021, 02:25 PM

Max has faster car and doesn't deliver in qualifying.

Max on the grippy side of the track, has his car over the yellow line along with illegal torque management by the Honda engine yielding an astounding get-away to pass Sir Lewis at the end of the 600 meter straight.

Sir Lewis runs in VERs dirty air for the race.

Mercedes throws a blinder and brings in Sir Lewis 20-odd laps from the end.

Sir Lewis runs VER down and leads the final 6 laps and wins the race.

The Verstappen Excuse Train Leaves the station.

E92inNC · 05-09-2021, 02:40 PM

These last two races have kinda been a snooze fest, even the early SC happened early and only three cars pitted. Probably will have to wait for Baku for some excitement as I doubt Monaco will provide it.

Steeler · 05-09-2021, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Max has faster car and doesn't deliver in qualifying.

Max on the grippy side of the track, has his car over the yellow line along with illegal torque management by the Honda engine yielding an astounding get-away to pass Sir Lewis at the end of the 600 meter straight.

Sir Lewis runs in VERs dirty air for the race.

Mercedes throws a blinder and brings in Sir Lewis 20-odd laps from the end.

Sir Lewis runs VER down and leads the final 12 laps and wins the race.

The Verstappen Excuse Train Leaves the station.

Worth a repost, aaaand your siggy is spectacularly out of date Sir!!!

inTgr8r · 05-09-2021, 03:13 PM

Plus RB warp speed gains fastest lap

Killed by Death · 05-09-2021, 03:24 PM

You guys are delusional if you still think the RB is faster than the MB. MB has improved the package since testing and both championships are now over. VER passed scHAM* on lap one but VER could never shake him. Barring illness, injury, crashes or car failures it is #8 for scHAM*

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yco i'm just saying 6021 Rep 2,634 Posts Drives: E71 X6M '10 (sold) Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Istanbul & Kyiv iTrader: (0)	yet another World-Class drive from Lewis! and Lewis actually overtook all other podium drivers again in a row.. anyone noticed? Bottas was purely racing with Lewis.. putting in consecutive fast laps without a breath.. and he made a smart move by yielding at the start.. it was a cheeky move a bit but still under racing terms.. Max said.. Red Bull is behind Merc'.. WRONG.. they re dealing with Lewis' magic now that Bottas cant pull off.. Max is waaaay faster than Bottas at the moment.. RB is not a slower car at all.. Max was pulling away in opening part of the race.. up until now.. RB was slightly ahead we ll see in future races again.. BUT.. Bottas is already nowhere.. and i believe he used his last credit today.. by not letting Lewis past.. well.. he cant compete with Lewis after many years, and not being a team player.. i guess one stuff like this will put Bottas' Merc' career in jeopardy.. 100% wont be a smart move for Bottas if he does.. RB was quite good this weekend.. and yeah having a record of the fastest pitstop ever doesnt guarantee you ll pull perfect pitstop when it really matters.. Max really had a chance this week.. even if it was a cheeky move, he used his chance at the start with some help from extra laid rubber on his side.. even i was telling that RB should have pitted 10-15 laps before ending the race.. eventhough they didnt react when Lewis made his second pitstop..for giving Max to chance to catch up Lewis by fresher and faster soft tires.. and Red Bull blew it.. if it continue going like this for few more races in this season.. and if i d not fully believe RB good in new regs next year.. i d leave RB.. but one thing is sure.. Max's ego wont be boosted nowhere near like in RB in other teams.. so probably considering this.. it was Max' 100th race.. there are much more younger drivers at the grid already.. time is running.. Leclerc.. that young fella again silently put his car to the best place possible.. AGAIN.. Ric is definitely not comfy in the car still.. no way he could be past like this from outside after a long straight.. he needs help urgently! Alonso's fans and of course Alonso himself is so disappointed by this race.. cause he was beaten again from a teammate that not even in his league.. its tough.. it felt like Mazepin was lapped like 20 times during the race.. always there was a HAAS car to be lapped.. it was annoying.. and lastly.. best overtake was for Perez this race.. he didnt have a perfect weekend but definitely he show how much potential he has inside by that outside overtaking action.. it was one of the best in recent years.. well done Checo! __________________ "Race car driving is like sex. All guys think they're good at it." Jay Leno
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msk340i Major 1330 Rep 1,133 Posts Drives: 340i M sport Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (1)	For the first time in I don’t know how long I didn’t even wake up to watch a race. Looks like I didn’t miss much. I doubt that the rest of the season will be any different. I’ll wait until 2022.
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SenorFunkyPants Brigadier General 2516 Rep 4,381 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	What a brilliant race from Hamilton...no one can manage their tyres as well as LH. Verstappen in particular seems to burn his tyres up faster than most. Red Bull will be looking to bribe even more Mercedes personnel into joining their team...they don't seem to have the level of talent needed to win races. Not least a better strategist and a better lead driver.
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M5Rick General 68886 Rep 22,131 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	^ Yup the other 85 that they missed out will soon come, RB have plenty of money. Look how very close they are now,
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rcracin Major 1252 Rep 1,290 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	It’s nice getting to see Ham put his skills to work.
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racerbruce Brigadier General 3877 Rep 3,004 Posts Drives: 21 X3 & 13 335is E93 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	Who will own today's bumbled VER debacle of a pitstop?? Helmut Marko has clarified why the pit stop of Max Verstappen lasted more than four seconds during the Spanish Grand Prix. According to the Red Bull Racing advisor, there was a misunderstanding between Gianpiero Lambiase and the Limburg driver during the first stint at the Barcelona circuit. After that Marko saw that the RB16B was a lot slower than Mercedes on the mediums. "Max came in uninvited. But our people reacted fantastically, especially because he came in at the last minute. It was a misunderstanding," Marko told ORF when asked about Verstappen's first pit stop of the race. Lambiase had said over the banking radio that the Dutchman should come in on the next lap. "Verstappen meant this lap, somehow it was misunderstood," he said. __________________ Racerbruce
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MKSixer Lieutenant General 34127 Rep 11,637 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW i8, E63 M6, 328d Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Southeast United States iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 M4 GTS (Allotted) [0.00] 2013 BMW 328d [0.00] 2007 BMW M6 [10.00] 2015 BMW i8 [10.00]	Max has faster car and doesn't deliver in qualifying. Max on the grippy side of the track, has his car over the yellow line along with illegal torque management by the Honda engine yielding an astounding get-away to pass Sir Lewis at the end of the 600 meter straight. Sir Lewis runs in VERs dirty air for the race. Mercedes throws a blinder and brings in Sir Lewis 20-odd laps from the end. Sir Lewis runs VER down and leads the final 6 laps and wins the race. The Verstappen Excuse Train Leaves the station. __________________ Several actors have played James Bond, Sean Connery IS James Bond... Sir 7ewis, 7X FIA Formula One World Championship, World Driving Champion. 100 Wins. 101 Pole Positions. 54 Fastest Laps. Actual Rain Master. Leave me to it, Bono. One Race Win in each of his 15 years in F1. Most Laps Led in Formula One. The Centurion. Last edited by MKSixer; 05-12-2021 at 04:49 PM..
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E92inNC Captain 1895 Rep 638 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: woods by the sea iTrader: (2)	These last two races have kinda been a snooze fest, even the early SC happened early and only three cars pitted. Probably will have to wait for Baku for some excitement as I doubt Monaco will provide it.
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Killed by Death Brigadier General 15773 Rep 4,259 Posts Drives: '23 X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	You guys are delusional if you still think the RB is faster than the MB. MB has improved the package since testing and both championships are now over. VER passed scHAM* on lap one but VER could never shake him. Barring illness, injury, crashes or car failures it is #8 for scHAM*
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