First 2022 Regulations F1 car revealed

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

If you developed innovations who took years of research and hard work , and cost hundreds of millions ...
You would just give it away ?

HAM's 2021 Rocket Warp-Speed Grenade is still in 2022 top-secret !

Probably you think that Mercedes will show the real deal ?

You don't understand controlled press releases do you

There's a difference between a controlled press release and giving away intellectual property, but I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference. Like i said before it is my opinion they wasted a good attention grabbing opportunity with a controlled press release or even a render like Haas. Especially since the chance for a copy this year around is even lower than ever due to the limitations on development. Dont forget just because you see a front wing or side pod doesn't mean you can blindly copy it because your cars flow fields in that area could be drastically different making that part useless on your car.


Mercedes has been showing the real deal every year so I don't know what you're talking about.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

If you can't even show portions of the car it shows how little confidence you have in your design, and car concept. The cars are too far developed as of now and changes can't be made to the side pod regions and crash structures any more as there simply isn't enough time nor wind tunnel time to reengineer everything before it's locked in. So if you can't even show those areas that are locked in you really don't have confidence in your design. It is what it is, some teams tend to be super secretive.


That has nothing to do with a controlled press release...

Think you're fooling yourself even in your assumption as to what an F1 car launch should or shouldn't be. It's actually a good thing that controlled lighting was also used to further mystify what is or isn't on the RB car and Aston Martin have made a mistake in showing what could be most of the real car.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Think you're fooling yourself even in your assumption as to what an F1 car launch should or shouldn't be. It's actually a good thing that controlled lighting was also used to further mystify what is or isn't on the RB car and Aston Martin have made a mistake in showing what could be most of the real car.

My opinion.

I said RB wasted an opportunity to garner all the attention, and provided reasons why it could have revealed the RB18 in a manner that doesn't compromise it. Never did I say this is how a reveal should have been, you max fans just can't handle any criticism of your team yet you like to dish it out.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

My opinion.

I said RB wasted an opportunity to garner all the attention, and provided reasons why it could have revealed the RB18 in a manner that doesn't compromise it. Never did I say this is how a reveal should have been, you max fans just can't handle any criticism of your team yet you like to dish it out.

I struggle to see what your point is about showing a car in a manner you describe, you are confusing yourself more and err what criticism is there about what?
You're stirring the pot with nothing in it, go back to start again and don't collect £200

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

You don't understand controlled press releases do you

There's a difference between a controlled press release and giving away intellectual property, but I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference. Like i said before it is my opinion they wasted a good attention grabbing opportunity with a controlled press release or even a render like Haas. Especially since the chance for a copy this year around is even lower than ever due to the limitations on development. Dont forget just because you see a front wing or side pod doesn't mean you can blindly copy it because your cars flow fields in that area could be drastically different making that part useless on your car.


Mercedes has been showing the real deal every year so I don't know what you're talking about.

Next Friday 18 , we'll see what the Mercedes BlitzKrieg will show to us !
And next Friday after the 2022 W13 presentation , I'll reply your post again ...
The only thing what Mercedes will show is the new 2022 color scheme , just like Red Bull did !
And probably the 2022 Mercedes W13 is SILVER ..
The chance of copy-cats is even bigger this year , because the base from every car is the same in 2022 ..
That's why Mercedes bought '8 FIA chassis from the 2022 original FIA concept car (prototype) !

•Let me help you ...

March '2021 :
Even in 2021, a year filled with restrictions and regulations , Mercedes tried to copy-cat the A.Newey's high rake design of the '2021 Red Bull RB16 anyway !
Of course Mercedes failed completely because the W12's floor really s@cked in combination with the RB's high rake ...

That's why I understand the Mercedes sandbagging perfectly ...
And the real deal of Mercedes is always been sandbagging !

As always requested , here is your source ...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

My opinion.

I said RB wasted an opportunity to garner all the attention, and provided reasons why it could have revealed the RB18 in a manner that doesn't compromise it. Never did I say this is how a reveal should have been, you max fans just can't handle any criticism of your team yet you like to dish it out.

You said that McLaren showed the real deal ..

Looks like McLaren has a lot to hide ?!?!

Don't know why they have to do that ...

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Next Friday 18 , we'll see what the Mercedes BlitzKrieg will show to us !
And next Friday after the 2022 W13 presentation , I'll reply your post again ...
The only thing what Mercedes will show is the new 2022 color scheme , just like Red Bull did !
And probably the 2022 Mercedes W13 is SILVER ..
The chance of copy-cats is even bigger this year , because the base from every car is the same in 2022 ..
That's why Mercedes bought '8 FIA chassis from the 2022 original FIA concept car (prototype) !

•Let me help you ...

March '2021 :
Even in 2021, a year filled with restrictions and regulations , Mercedes tried to copy-cat the A.Newey's high rake design of the '2021 Red Bull RB16 anyway !
Of course Mercedes failed completely because the W12's floor really s@cked in combination with the RB's high rake ...

That's why I understand the Mercedes sandbagging perfectly ...
And the real deal of Mercedes is always been sandbagging !

As always requested , here is your source ...

1) That was because the 2021 regulations affected low rake cars so merc had to figure out a way to create a higher rake car.

2) That article title is misleading and your quoting of it is cherry picking at best. Mercedes did not copy the "newey" design, rake has nothing to do with one particular designer it is just the definition of the angle formed from the flat under floor of the car in relation to the ground. This would imply redbull is copying teams that ran high rake in F1 before them. IF they had copied all of red bull's rear end aero then that would be copying Newey's design but they didn't, they just tried to increase rake angle in respect to their own mercedes design philosophy. The fact that you can't tell the difference is hilarious, it just shows how you just want to pull at every string out there that is anti mercedes. You literally have to make every excuse possible to ensure your image of max isn't tainted whenever he loses.

3) If you want real copying what about redbull copying mercede's narrow nose concept - that's actually copying a design, what about mercede's swept back suspension concept, what about the split turbo, what about prechamber ignition? These are actually copying ideas.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You said that McLaren showed the real deal ..

Looks like McLaren has a lot to hide ?!?!

Don't know why they have to do that ...

They did, they just hid some sensitive areas. That still constitutes showing their real chassis that they will use in 2022.

Even Haas showed a render of their 2022 car, albeit they excluded alot of detail. The only one that didn't show anything was redbull with their "fake" chassis they bought from the FIA.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

They did, they just hid some sensitive areas. That still constitutes showing their real chassis that they will use in 2022.

Even Haas showed a render of their 2022 car, albeit they excluded alot of detail. The only one that didn't show anything was redbull with their "fake" chassis they bought from the FIA.

I can tell you already how next Friday the '2022 Mercedes W13 will look like ..

The Mercedes W13 will look like , how HAM was looking like during the winter break ...

Most parts were sensitive and completely invisible !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I can tell you already how next Friday the '2022 Mercedes W13 will look like ..

The Mercedes W13 will look like , how HAM was looking like during the winter break ...

Most parts were sensitive and completely invisible !

And the RB18 looked like how max did at the end of 2021 - a fake.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

And the RB18 looked like how max did at the end of 2021 - a fake.

MAX won his '2021 WDC already at Brazil . If your man didn't rammed him in the wall at Silverstone in the Copse turn !
By his dirty tricks !

Just like in '2021 . MAX will take your man down . Again !

Like a brick sinks in the water ...

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX won his '2021 WDC already at Brazil . If your man didn't rammed him in the wall at Silverstone in the Copse turn !
By his dirty tricks !

Just like in '2021 . MAX will take your man down . Again !

Like a brick sinks in the water ...

I don't even like Lewis LOL.

Maybe the RB18 and honda pu will absolutely suck and he will be in the mid field struggling to fight for points.


Don't forget if anyone is the dirty driver its max, weaving on the straights and calling it defense.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

I don't even like Lewis LOL.

Maybe the RB18 and honda pu will absolutely suck and he will be in the mid field struggling to fight for points.


Don't forget if anyone is the dirty driver its max, weaving on the straights and calling it defense.

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[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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bound to happen when you are a dirty driver who never gives any space

Look how revealing it is. RB should do this more often.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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If anything does put back RBR in developing the 18 it was having to replace the wreck of Max's car mid season that HAM caused at copse, shame for motorsports that HAM was not black flagged and penalised effectively by a faltering steward system.

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by F87source

I don't even like Lewis LOL.

Look at the rear shot 53secs to 1m how much the rear wing was falling back to reduce drag and how much it raised. Wasn't it some on here that complained bitterly about the rear wings and cheating by Merc... Erm

Pot-Kettle-Black comes to mind, but its ok its an RB so its all fine.

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=F87source;28584064]bound to happen when you are a dirty driver who never gives any space

Look how revealing it is. RB should do this more often.
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*Funny to you that MV could have been seriously injured or worse huh

[F87source]

[QUOTE=M5Rick;28584848]

Originally Posted by F87source

bound to happen when you are a dirty driver who never gives any space

Look how revealing it is. RB should do this more often.
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*Funny to you that MV could have been seriously injured or worse huh

Strange I don't see you critiquing the dangerous swerving max does that endangers other drivers, and you seem to find it funny when you and m power posted photos mocking Lewis after Max's car ended up on top of his.

Seems it's ok to find any injury that Lewis may sustain funny but not max?

[///M Power-Belgium]

[QUOTE=F87source;28584883]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Strange I don't see you critiquing the dangerous swerving max does that endangers other drivers, and you seem to find it funny when you and m power posted photos mocking Lewis after Max's car ended up on top of his.

Seems it's ok to find any injury that Lewis may sustain funny but not max?

The hate from you HAM preachers is INSANE !!!

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=F87source;28584883]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Strange I don't see you critiquing the dangerous swerving max does that endangers other drivers, and you seem to find it funny when you and m power posted photos mocking Lewis after Max's car ended up on top of his.

Seems it's ok to find any injury that Lewis may sustain funny but not max?

The exact answer I was expecting from you, the difference there at Monza was HAM tried to run Max off the road bringing the DNF upon himself and was well protected by the cockpit halo, it all happened at walking pace so you can't compare that with Max's top speed 51G off at Copse. HAM is the dangerous one mate, look how leclerc got out of his way going off track terrified the same would happen to him.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The hate from you HAM preachers is INSANE !!!

You guys are no better. You guys made a 50+ page thread to hate on Lewis so yeah....

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

The exact answer I was expecting from you, the difference there at Monza was HAM tried to run Max off the road bringing the DNF upon himself and was well protected by the cockpit halo, it all happened at walking pace so you can't compare that with Max's top speed 51G off at Copse. HAM is the dangerous one mate, look how leclerc got out of his way going off track terrified the same would happen to him.

The retort was not in terms of what accident is worse, it was about is it acceptible to make fun of a drivers accident and the possibility that they were to get injured. So don't try to change the topic. BTW that post was not to meant to insuate anything about max's accident and any injuries he may have sustained. It was in regards to redbull not releasing anything for the rb18 and the crash was a pretty much bare it all event with internals on full display.


The clear answer is no, but you guys have set the precedent that it is acceptable to make fun of accidents and driver injuries even putting tire marks on Lewis's head (seems to me when the driver is Lewis you have no problems making fun of accidents and injuries - if you want to set that precedent then don't get upset when people start making fun of accidents). I told you guys earlier I won't be here telling you what you can and cannot post, but if you post some tasteless things people won't want to be around you guys. And I have also realized logic and reasoning is moot to you guys, so I may as well do what you do and that is be tasteless and recycle debunked talking points. Seems acceptable enough with the entire 50 page + thread you guys have as precence.