BMW plunges 7 floors from parking garage

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I see quite a few older folks messing with cell phones while driving. 30-40 year old Soccer moms and contractors in pick-up trucks are probably the worst I've observed...

30 and 40-year-olds are older folks that's fucking hilarious.

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

The lawyers that work for me don't wear ties and they're not assholes.

If the shoe fits wear it.

Ooooh. Big talk. And you never have to go to court.

I don't believe a word of it.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by stefan

Guy was watching a movie and fell asleep. Wonder how he was able to be totally hands free for that long? Autonomous tech. Anything else would have started drifting off the road the second he let go of the steering wheel to put his feet up. Much harder to watch a movie and sleep when you are forced to actually drive.

Truck drivers have manual transmissions and also fall asleep and crash every year. In either case a bad human decision is made - driving while watching a movie and relying on tech that has not been proven to work vs. driving when too tired to be driving, putting others at risk. In both cases it is human decision making at fault.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

Ooooh. Big talk. And you never have to go to court.

I don't believe a word of it.

I could care less what you believe.
It seems your ego has gotten the best of you. I hope you have a better day.

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[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

30 and 40-year-olds are older folks that's fucking hilarious.

Well, they are older than teenagers and 20 year olds

I am 46 BTW...

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

I could care less what you believe.
It seems your ego has gotten the best of you. I hope you have a better day.

Next /

Pro tip: the correct phrase is "couldn't care less." And for those who are reading and writing impaired, there's a video so you can listen and don't have to try to read it at all: https://www.merriam-webster.com/vide...ldnt-care-less

(For the impatient, the payoff is at 2:00.)

And my day is going just fine. And for the record, I avoid assholes as clients. They're also usually the ones who don't listen to advice and don't pay their bills.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Well, they are older than teenagers and 20 year olds

I am 46 BTW...

Like a fine wine that's been developing much character over time you're now ready for the best part of life.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

Pro tip: the correct phrase is "couldn't care less." And for those who are reading and writing impaired, there's a video so you can listen and don't have to try to read it at all: https://www.merriam-webster.com/vide...ldnt-care-less

(For the impatient, the payoff is at 2:00.)

And my day is going just fine. And for the record, I avoid assholes as clients. They're also usually the ones who don't listen to advice and don't pay their bills.

You clearly have no sense of humour.

And your huge ego is beyond evident.

Get over yourself.

[Fundguy1]

428 convertible. Woman driver. Go figure.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I see quite a few older folks messing with cell phones while driving. 30-40 year old Soccer moms and contractors in pick-up trucks are probably the worst I've observed...

30-40 Older????? Lmao. I could be the father of some "older" folks then.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

30-40 Older????? Lmao. I could be the father of some "older" folks then.

Both of my kids are in their 40s

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

30-40 Older????? Lmao. I could be the father of some "older" folks then.

Older is a comparative adjective, not a superlative one, no? English is not my primary language, but do remember as much from school.

30-40 year old folks are OLDER that 20 year old folks

I am 46 BTW...

[Yeru]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

+dangerously designed parking structure

Robust cables would have prevented the accident altogether. While I enjoy reading about Darwin Award winners, for doing truly stupid things, I don't believe this woman deserved the death penalty for a mistake that's made all the time. When a mistake is made all the time you design to make sure the mistake isn't fatal. True, here, it wasn't fatal, but it often would be.

The cables were flimsy and didn't perform as they should have. Blame the woman, but blame the garage operator (and builder) as well for a poor, unsafe design.

This may very well be true, but only forensic data and not perception can bear that out. I say this because subjective perception may be incorrect; a few years ago, if you compared a carbon-fiber component with its steel counterpart, the uninformed would perceive the CF to be the inferior of the 2; i.e. light-weight and thin CF = "flimsy" (bad) versus heavy-weight and thick steel = strong (good).

If the barrier cable was engineered to withstand an ingress parking bay speed of S for a vehicle carrying a max weight of W and that falls within regulatory spec, then I don't see how she'll successfully litigate against any combination of architect, builder, parking lot operator and anyone else in that construction supply chain; unless some Bernie Madoff type entity knowingly and deceitfully supplied sub-standard materials; but she'd need to prove that and it would cost her a ton to do so. Even in seemingly benign driving situations like parking bay entry; the onus is on the driver to be defensively vigilant, retain control and to rectify bad decisions in split-seconds.

We've all screwed up while driving; most of us get away with it without damage to life, limb or property, but hopefully reach the point of realization that we acknowledge having more luck than brains in the past; I know I do.

In the recent past, I drove a 428i Convertible loaner; the little 2.0L i4 has surprisingly sweet bottom-end torque starting at 1,250 RPM, braked and handled well. I was impressed. Maybe BMW’s 360 degree cam and automation technology will prevent this in the future, where the car ignores driver acceleration input and applies the brakes to prevent shooting off the 7th floor. But even then, I’m sure many will blame others first, as we’ve evolved into a spoilt, self-indulgent and distracted generation.

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

Absolutely stunned she survived this...

Dayum.

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by Yeru

This may very well be true, but only forensic data and not perception can bear that out. I say this because subjective perception may be incorrect; a few years ago, if you compared a carbon-fiber component with its steel counterpart, the uninformed would perceive the CF to be the inferior of the 2; i.e. light-weight and thin CF = "flimsy" (bad) versus heavy-weight and thick steel = strong (good).

If the barrier cable was engineered to withstand an ingress parking bay speed of S for a vehicle carrying a max weight of W and that falls within regulatory spec, then I don't see how she'll successfully litigate against any combination of architect, builder, parking lot operator and anyone else in that construction supply chain; unless some Bernie Madoff type entity knowingly and deceitfully supplied sub-standard materials; but she'd need to prove that and it would cost her a ton to do so. Even in seemingly benign driving situations like parking bay entry; the onus is on the driver to be defensively vigilant, retain control and to rectify bad decisions in split-seconds.

We've all screwed up while driving; most of us get away with it without damage to life, limb or property, but hopefully reach the point of realization that we acknowledge having more luck than brains in the past; I know I do.

In the recent past, I drove a 428i Convertible loaner; the little 2.0L i4 has surprisingly sweet bottom-end torque starting at 1,250 RPM, braked and handled well. I was impressed. Maybe BMW’s 360 degree cam and automation technology will prevent this in the future, where the car ignores driver acceleration input and applies the brakes to prevent shooting off the 7th floor. But even then, I’m sure many will blame others first, as we’ve evolved into a spoilt, self-indulgent and distracted generation.

This was the second accident of this type within a short period of time at this garage. And after this accident the City of Austin apparently woke up and cited the garage for unsafe operations. So the cable will not be tested in situ; it will be replaced.

I do agree with your comment about everyone making mistakes. If we're lucky, our mistakes are not fatal and we live to make more in the future.

[Aries326]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Christi Bowmer has had multiple medical problems and procedures from the crash, which necessitated shaving off the front part of her hair, and fears she will have back problems for the rest of her life.

She credits the safety features in her BMW for helping to save her life.

Bowmer’s attorney, Sean Breen, says she plans to file a lawsuit soon. She wants to make sure the “danger” in this garage and others is fixed, “so no one else has to suffer this nightmare.”

http://kxan.com/2017/08/11/woman-who...lls-her-story/

I'd like to file a lawsuit to make sure people like her who don't know which pedal is which ever get behind a wheel. Smh.

[MalibuBimmer]

Originally Posted by Aries326

I'd like to file a lawsuit to make sure people like her who don't know which pedal is which ever get behind a wheel. Smh.

Music to a lawyer's ears. But if you sue everyone who makes a mistake in a car, you'll make the lawyer representing you exceedingly rich. (And you'll lose all the cases for lack of standing.)

We're human beings. We make mistakes. We're not perfect. The only perfect human being who never made a mistake was crucified by imperfect, mistake prone human beings.

[sor]

Originally Posted by Timo96

IF you disregard air-resistance and approximate the height it equates to about a 65kmph/40mph impact!

Yeah, I worked it out to about 40mph myself, but had the opposite reaction, surprised it was so tame. I figure collisions at that speed are fairly common. Not a parking lot fender bender common by any means, but a head-on collision in a residential area with a 20-25mph speed limit would be on the same order. Or hitting a stationary object on an average boulevard.

[jdr78569]

2nd occurrence from the same garage? Coincidence? I think it's the garage lol

Glad to hear she's alive, +1 for BMW engineering

[Roch M4]

She was probably parked forward in the parking, because the front of the car hit first the floor, flipped and landed on the top ...so considering that, she probably engaged the car in drive, then she realized that she was not going back, so when she feels that the car was going in the wrong direction, she hit the accelerator instead of the break...that is the only explanation...

[E92friendly]

Some people don't deserve to be driving ???? lack of awareness if you can't tell the difference of the pressure of a gas vs brake pedal.

[spatterson007]

I am glad she is ok, but how does one mistake the two pedals?! I mean unless you are a new driver.... ahh! Could have been much worse.