Official Tesla Talk Thread **No Politics**

[F32Fleet]

The drop coincides with the latest Engineering Explained on Tesla v. Porsche

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I don't think Tesla will be around in 7 years

it's sad newbies to this thread won't get the joke

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by jmg

Time to buy?

Apparently

[jmg]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Apparently

Sigh... jumping in again. Third time's the charm.

[GrussGott]

Hey, soooo, here's something interesting about BMW:

Last night while researching the X5 45e (possibly BMW's best vehicle right now, certainly the best value) I discovered that BMW seems to be converting *all* 2021+ x40i vehicles to "mild hybrid", i.e., all 2021+ sedans w/ six cylinder ICE will get an inline 11 HP e-motor with 48v battery

Like every line EXCEPT the Ms (obvs), and X-line which apparently requires a re-design thus the X5 45e (basically an X5 40i w/ inline 6cyl+111hp e-motor)

So it's looking more and more like BMW is quietly going hybrid-electric with their best sellers to condition consumers to electric, while loudly introducing halo all electrics, with the X5 45e being a quietly announced PHEV in-between: it's not an i-line, but more electric than their mild hybrids, and plug-in.

Said differently, the new standard BMW drivetrain is electric hybrid.

Weird, huh? Did everybody know about this except me? Am I interpreting this wrong??

[SunnyD]

https://www.thedrive.com/tech/36274/...rade-fake-wood

Thoughts?

[jmg]

Originally Posted by SunnyD

https://www.thedrive.com/tech/36274/tesla-model-y-owners-find-cooling-system-cobbled-together-with-home-depot-grade-fake-wood

Thoughts?

My thoughts are I lost a couple hundred on TSLA today. Lol par for the course when I jump back in.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by SunnyD

Thoughts?

PR problem. parts is parts ...

... and given it's just a metal-on-metal protector thingy that would otherwise be plastic without simulated wood grain, I'd say it's a no-cost cosmetic upgrade.

If it were cheaper black plastic people be like "oh cool"

[smyles]

Originally Posted by SunnyD

https://www.thedrive.com/tech/36274/...rade-fake-wood

Thoughts?

A carbon fiber "upgrade" available on Ali in 3...2..

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Hey, soooo, here's something interesting about BMW:

Last night while researching the X5 45e (possibly BMW's best vehicle right now, certainly the best value) I discovered that BMW seems to be converting *all* 2021+ x40i vehicles to "mild hybrid", i.e., all 2021+ sedans w/ six cylinder ICE will get an inline 11 HP e-motor with 48v battery

Like every line EXCEPT the Ms (obvs), and X-line which apparently requires a re-design thus the X5 45e (basically an X5 40i w/ inline 6cyl+111hp e-motor)

So it's looking more and more like BMW is quietly going hybrid-electric with their best sellers to condition consumers to electric, while loudly introducing halo all electrics, with the X5 45e being a quietly announced PHEV in-between: it's not an i-line, but more electric than their mild hybrids, and plug-in.

Said differently, the new standard BMW drivetrain is electric hybrid.

Weird, huh? Did everybody know about this except me? Am I interpreting this wrong??

Not surprised in one bit. As I've been saying for years, millions of euros in Govt EV development subsidies come with strings.

Look for Mercedes to follow suit.

[GrussGott]

In Tesla competitor news:

Nikola, says their CEO, has industry leading technology ... only they're not gonna use it for their only planned consumer vehicle, The Badger, and instead outsource the whole thing to GM:

If I was going to short a BEV maker, Nikola.

[DieselDiner]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

In Tesla competitor news:

Nikola, says their CEO, has industry leading technology ... only they're not gonna use it for their only planned consumer vehicle, The Badger, and instead outsource the whole thing to GM

Nikola? Much more to that story: https://electrek.co/2020/09/11/nikol...es-gm-nothing/

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/09...d-allegations/

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Anybody gonna dunk on TSLA's huge drop? Here's your chance!

I hate you because you might have been right. But the stock is a roller coaster.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

I hate you because you might have been right. But the stock is a roller coaster.

I bought what I could afford to lose just to be a part of the ride. Up a couple hundred bucks.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by jmg

I bought what I could afford to lose just to be a part of the ride. Up a couple hundred bucks.

Good. If you bought, it should tank soon. Then I'll buy.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Good. If you bought, it should tank soon. Then I'll buy.

Lol I'm not selling this time. Ride or die!

[GenXer]

I'm so upside down on my 440i that by the time I could afford a Tesla, people will be driving cars fueled only by their sense of self satisfaction.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by GenXer

people will be driving cars fueled only by their sense of self satisfaction.

People who have solar+powerwall already are.

[GrussGott]

Exotics are starting their electric slide:

Porsche owns 15% (to date) of Croatian electric auto supplier Rimac Automobili, as well as Koenigsegg and others ... well, now it's looking like VW will trade Bugatti to Rimac in exchange for a bigger stake.

In case you don't know, since 2009, Rimac has been quietly building its capabilities in battery packs, custom e-motors, and software for driver assistance, systems networking, integration and operations. According to the founder:

"Our powertrain systems are the highest power density, and the highest energy density. If you need to have as much power in as little space as possible, you come to us"

Looking more and more like the competitors for the future of the global auto industry are:
Tesla, GM, Rimac, Polestar and the winners of a bunch of startups and vendors

[smyles]

10+ years and no actual mass produced car? Or they hope to just sell technology/patents?

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by smyles

10+ years and no actual mass produced car? Or they hope to just sell technology/patents?

They're more of a e-tech vendor and consulting company...

Bugatti will help them showcase their tech on a reference-level halo implementation of low production super-e cars.

[Murf993]

Publishing date:Sep 18, 2020 •

A 20-year-old British Columbia man faces several charges after Alberta Mounties received complaints about a self-driving Telsa speeding while the occupants were taking a nap.

https://nationalpost.com/news/crime/...-b5d0727e44b6/

Tesla occupants slept on reclined seats as car self-drove at 140 km/h through Alberta: RCMP
The autopilot feature allows for the car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically within its lane but still requires the driver to be paying attention

On July 9, Alberta RCMP pulled over a 2019 Tesla Model S on Highway 2 near Ponoka, that was travelling at speeds up to 150 km/h and appeared to be self-driving with both seats reclined and two people inside the car sleeping.

Ponoka RCMP said in a Thursday news release police received a call about a 2019 Tesla Model S travelling at more than 140 km/h south on Highway 2 near the town around 4 p.m. on July 9. Police said the car appeared to be self-driving with both front seats reclined all the way back and the driver and passenger were asleep.

Police said when an officer turned on the cruiser’s emergency lights, the Tesla accelerated to 150 km/h.

When police received the complaint about the speeding car it initiallyappeared to be driving itself with no one inside.

“Sure enough, a short time later the Tesla goes by. The officer was sitting in the centre median and he too was like, ‘Noooo,”‘ said RCMP Sgt. Darrin Turnbull. “He couldn’t see anybody in the vehicle.

“He gets up closer to the vehicle and hits the siren, and it’s at that point he can see the driver pop up and pull over,” Turnbull said.

“We can’t say whether he was sleeping or not, or whether he was just reclined back.”

After being pulled over, the driver was charged with speeding and handed a 24-hour licence suspension for fatigue. He was later charged with dangerous driving.

“Although manufacturers of new vehicles have built-in safeguards to prevent drivers from taking advantage of the new safety systems in vehicles, those systems are just that supplemental safety systems,” RCMP traffic services Supt. Gary Graham said in the release. “They are not self-driving systems, they still come with the responsibility of driving.”

The driver is scheduled to appear in court in December.

According to Tesla’s website, the autopilot feature allows for the car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically within its lane but still requires the driver to be paying attention.

Autonomous cars are in their early stages in much of Canada, with Ontario and Quebec approving pilot projects as long as a vigilant driver is present to take control of the vehicle when needed.

There have not been any reported self-driving car crashes in Canada, but several have been reported in the U.S.

“It’s definitely a new thing, which unfortunately we might see more often,” said Turnbull.

Ponoka is more than 100 kilometres south of Edmonton.

— With files from The Canadian Press