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      09-06-2024, 01:14 PM   #67
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I would think Italian and NYC goes hand in hand with Italian food.
most of it is americanized italian food.

Just like how most "mexican" food in the us is really tex-mex.

same same, but different.
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Was waiting on this tacRab vid where he confirms with what you said, a correlation problem with their wind tunnel concerning front/rear balance different to what it is on the track and it affects VCarb too who use the tunnel.
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Ferrari have pots of money to play within the budget , they haven't a Checo to cost them millions in repairs.
Horner says Checo's the best they got, don't blame Ferrari
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Was waiting on this techRob vid where he confirms with what you said, a correlation problem with their wind tunnel concerning front/rear balance different to what it is on the track and it affects VCarb too who use the tunnel.
Yeah I know . The next RB20 upgrades are planned for @Austin (COTA) October 20.

As MAX and RB fans we only can hope they can improve the balance of the car , because currently the RB20 is driving backwards .
Even with the new COTA upgrade package it won't be easy to fix the RB20 fundamental design flaw.
They took the wrong turn with the RB20 and now they are completely lost..
Think they will try it with the old re-built monocoque and chassis .
I'm pretty sure , it will be a gamble...
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Yeah I know . The next RB20 upgrades are planned for @Austin (COTA) October 20.

As MAX and RB fans we only can hope they can improve the balance of the car , because currently the RB20 is driving backwards .
Even with the new COTA upgrade package it won't be easy to fix the RB20 fundamental design flaw.
They took the wrong turn with the RB20 and now they are completely lost..
Think they will try it with the old re-built monocoque and chassis .
I'm pretty sure , it will be a gamble...
Be using '25 RB21 development parts also where appropriate.
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Be using '25 RB21 development parts also where appropriate.
They need to revert back to using the RB19. That car wasn't easy to drive either but it suited Max's driving talent with a very sharp nose that would leave everyone on the grid in the wall save for maybe Lec.
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Be using '25 RB21 development parts also where appropriate.
They called people back from the 2025 RB21 development to help with the RB20 re-built upgrades for COTA.
This will for 50% sacrifice the 2025 RB21 development...

At this time the RB20 upgrades take priority over the 2025 RB21 development .
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They need to revert back to using the RB19. That car wasn't easy to drive either but it suited Max's driving talent with a very sharp nose that would leave everyone on the grid in the wall save for maybe Lec.
If you look at quali times for max, RB20 vs RB19, he's faster in the RB20. The RB19 would be a step back. Maybe he'd like the balance more, but he'd be slower. The RB20 is a step forward, but everyone else took an even bigger step forward. I think Max's problems with the RB20 stem from him running in dirty air because the other cars are now more competitive, and he's not used to it...
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They need to revert back to using the RB19. That car wasn't easy to drive either but it suited Max's driving talent with a very sharp nose that would leave everyone on the grid in the wall save for maybe Lec.
If it were possible . But it isn't...

It would make the RB20 even slower because at Zandvoort the RB20 was 1 sec. faster than the RB19.

This showes how much teams like McLaren , Ferrari and Mercedes have improved in this season.
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They called people back from the 2025 RB21 development to help with the RB20 re-built upgrades for COTA.
This will for 50% sacrifice the 2025 RB21 development...

At this time the RB20 upgrades take priority over the 2025 RB21 development .
I realise that and the worked on car is planned for Austin I think the vid mentioned.
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If you look at quali times for max, RB20 vs RB19, he's faster in the RB20. The RB19 would be a step back. Maybe he'd like the balance more, but he'd be slower. The RB20 is a step forward, but everyone else took an even bigger step forward. I think Max's problems with the RB20 stem from him running in dirty air because the other cars are now more competitive, and he's not used to it...
Negative . The RB20 issue is not the dirty air..

In the start at Zandvoort MAX took the lead and was P1.
MAX ran 17 laps at P1 in clean air , then came Norris who ran 17 laps in dirty air behind MAX and he took MAX down like he was standing still .

The RB20 issue is a huge fundamental design flaw.
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so this is what RB was protesting about? interesting.

quite easy to fix, everybody just follow and then it's all the same.
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Ironically, US based kit-kats suck, terrible sponsor for the US audience. I buy them whenever we're out of the country, but since they're not made by nestle in the us, they're pretty terrible. Always amazed at how much better they are abroad.
US chocolate is very hard to like for anyone that did not grow up with it. It has butyric acid in it. The other thing that has butyric acid in it is vomit. US bread is also revolting. Just tastes like a sugar cake. Unless you go to the more civilised areas and have some nice sourdough then it is basically inedible.
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US chocolate is very hard to like for anyone that did not grow up with it. It has butyric acid in it. The other thing that has butyric acid in it is vomit. US bread is also revolting. Just tastes like a sugar cake. Unless you go to the more civilised areas and have some nice sourdough then it is basically inedible.
That's weird, especially from the home of the Vegemite. Wait. No, that's utter nonsense shite. For the kids at home keeping scores, last year alone, there were over 60m foreign visitors to America. More than twice the population of Australia. The super vast majority of visitors ate American chocolate and bread. And they keep coming back for more. Next, please.
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US chocolate is very hard to like for anyone that did not grow up with it. It has butyric acid in it. The other thing that has butyric acid in it is vomit. US bread is also revolting. Just tastes like a sugar cake. Unless you go to the more civilised areas and have some nice sourdough then it is basically inedible.
I grew up with it, in the shadow of Hershey, PA... But it still tastes like garbage to me. Plenty of good options in the US, just not from the mass marketed brands like KitKat.

Same with bread, there's plenty of good stuff, just need to avoid the big box grocery stores and nationwide brands.

And don't even get me started on this nations obsession with processed cheese... Ugh.
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Negative . The RB20 issue is not the dirty air..

In the start at Zandvoort MAX took the lead and was P1.
MAX ran 17 laps at P1 in clean air , then came Norris who ran 17 laps in dirty air behind MAX and he took MAX down like he was standing still .

The RB20 issue is a huge fundamental design flaw.
They're claiming it's a difference in balance from the wind tunnel to the track. Dirty air would explain that.

I think it's just that they're not heqds and shoulders above the competition and are not used to designing a car that needs to run in dirty air more often. They'll figure it out eventually, but it's pretty telling that now Max is complaining of the same issues Checo always has, and they're both running in dirty air while the team points to an issue with the wind tunnel....
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