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01-19-2011, 08:32 AM | #69 |
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These specs are very similar to Fords 2L ecotec engine which is rated at 247hp for the upcoming Focus ST.
And with regards to the Audi 2.0T, it may be rated at 211hp, but it usually dynos close to that amount to the wheels. Although who knows what this new BMW engine will actually dyno. Obviously the N54 was way underrated, wouldn't be surprised if this engine is closer to 260hp. |
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There's definitely potential here to compete with the very small market that is the WRX/STi Ralliart/Evo. As of now this X1 seems to be somewhere in the Ralliart/WRX territory. It's not like these Japanese counterparts are particularly sporty in comparison.
I have to feel that a 2L twin scroll turbo with DI can edge about a bit more power albeit more peaky than it is tuned for now. Either doing that (plus maybe a sport package/etc) OR putting the N55 under the hood will put you square in STi/Evo territory (and remembering that an Evo MR is probably similar in price as well).
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01-19-2011, 08:58 AM | #71 |
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I def like this move from BMW. and like some members posted I would like to see this in the 1 series line up and even possibly the 3 series
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01-19-2011, 09:16 AM | #72 |
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I find myself in agreement with those who are excited about the new turbo four. It looks like two thirds of an N55, but probably has more boost. Time will tell if the horsepower is as conservatively rated as the N55.
Comparisons to the STI and EVO are not appropriate as those cars have poor fuel economy. So poor that I don't see much of a future for them without significant revisions. Remember that in the US small cars must have much better fuel efficiency than under the old rules where everything was averaged together. Although Hundai has a turbo 4 rated at 275 horsepower, I am willing to bet the 245 HP BMW motor will surpass it in both acceleration and drivability.
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I'd rather BMW going turbo charged I4 instead of a novocain induced hybrid I4 motor as Lexus is doing these days.
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The EVO 2L engine is not DI, has a relatively large stock turbo that can produce well over 20psi and when combined with AWD gets piss poor fuel economy. Same story with the STi. |
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01-19-2011, 10:13 AM | #77 |
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Does anybody know the redline? With peak horsepower at 5,000rpm, it'll be a huge change from the N52 which would pull hard to it's 7,000rpm redline.
The trade off is more torque lower and better gas milage, not bad for an entry model. |
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01-19-2011, 10:17 AM | #78 |
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Honda hasn't discovered torque yet.
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01-19-2011, 10:22 AM | #79 |
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Sounds like it will be a fantastic engine.....now if BMW could work on decreasing vehicle weight that would be even more impressive
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a turboed 4 is definitely good for the future. I mean better mpg, lower emissions, but there is one thing that really annoying. Today an evo passed me at full throttle, it sounded like a woman screaming not a nice noise at all. I still would prefer an I6 over a 4 anytime. As for the badges the 128 and 130 and the 135 need to have different badges to differentiate between the engine output tho all of them are a 3.0l engine
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thats good news for us ho can only afford a 320 due to the stupid taxes..
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This sets a really high bar for the next 1M.
Not only that but it moves the bar higher for the current lineup. This engine has more HP and TQ than the N52 and better fuel economy. As long as it drives well and does not have the fuel pump issue of the N54/N55 then it is a win/win. - J
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Still haven't found a 4 banger that sounded good. Even Audi's vaunted 2.0t in the 2010 A4 to me sounds like s#$%. I wouldn't mind this as an option to slot below the 328i, but sounds like they're killing the last of the NA I6 engines in the US. To all the N52 bashers, keep in mind BMW is giving us the crappiest 3.0 NA motor available. The Euro guys get the N53 3.0 I6 NA WITH direct injection and a variable intake manifold while our 3.0 NA I6's do without.
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Does anyone know what BMW that is pictured showing it's new turbo 4 engine?
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