Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Maybe then you should mentor Greta Thundberg, she could use a lot more exercise.

I try to stay away from crazy. That's rule number one.

[M5Rick]

Madness personified.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/287445...c-catastrophe/

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Just stirring the pot

It's Been 6 Years Since Greta Thunberg Warned We Have 5 Years to Stop the Extinction of Humanity
June 25, 2024



Thunberg deleted the tweet in 2023 which is amusing, considering it was the five-year mark.
While Thunberg’s post did not say humanity would end in five years — we did make it past 2023 after all — there was one glaring problem with it. The article that Thunberg linked misquoted the scientist who made the relevant remarks.
In January 2018, James Anderson, a professor of atmospheric chemistry at Harvard, gave a speech that was covered by Forbes.
Anderson remarked in that speech on damage he claimed climate change is doing to the “permanent ice” at the Earth’s poles, and its implications for the globe, according to Forbes.
“The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero,” he said, according to Forbes. “Can we lose 75-80 percent of permanent ice and recover? The answer is no.”
https://www.westernjournal.com/6-yea...tion-humanity/

Be careful of what you said. She may show up at your doorbell camera

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Just stirring the pot

It's Been 6 Years Since Greta Thunberg Warned We Have 5 Years to Stop the Extinction of Humanity
June 25, 2024



Thunberg deleted the tweet in 2023 which is amusing, considering it was the five-year mark.
While Thunberg’s post did not say humanity would end in five years — we did make it past 2023 after all — there was one glaring problem with it. The article that Thunberg linked misquoted the scientist who made the relevant remarks.
In January 2018, James Anderson, a professor of atmospheric chemistry at Harvard, gave a speech that was covered by Forbes.
Anderson remarked in that speech on damage he claimed climate change is doing to the “permanent ice” at the Earth’s poles, and its implications for the globe, according to Forbes.
“The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero,” he said, according to Forbes. “Can we lose 75-80 percent of permanent ice and recover? The answer is no.”
https://www.westernjournal.com/6-yea...tion-humanity/

Be careful of what you said. She may show up at your doorbell camera with an angry face

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Ummm....there 400 pages of posts in this thread. You know damn well you've posted from a some very extreme and Right-wing sources, some of which are simply not credible. You are hell bent you proving your point and sometimes get rather desperate with your daily posts. You really should consider starting a YT channel.



No, it's really not. I don't dispute all the products the oil industry provides us. What I do have a problem with is the hilarious amounts of subsidies, tax breaks, etc. that they get. It really makes no sense. You posted salaries of certain EV CEOs, CFOs, and board members. Those salaries are nothing compared to those of the top players Shell, BP, etc. The oil industry and it's lobbyists pull a lot of strings. A lot. They are likely more powerful than the US government itself. Just something to consider.



Now what is exactly wrong with investing in clean energy? While we have gotten quite creative with finding and extracting more fossil fuel that thought imaginable, we must explore other ways to create energy. Sometimes you've got to invest it, even some really bad ideas, to find the one thing that may be the Holy Grail.

And before you go off the deep end here, I'm an environmental consultant that works for one of the leading environmental firms in this country. I work for and represent the oil/gas industry. I've worked at refineries, worked all across the "plays" of Texas, done the permitting, battled the EPA and state DNRs regarding consent orders/violations/etc, dug the O/G clients out of deep regulatory holes due to their ignorance/arrogance, watched the O/G industry get away with bloody murder regarding contamination and violations while getting mere slaps of on the wrist for it, etc. I lived this industry for better or worse. My company is also heavily invested in Green incentives, ESG, etc. and I'm not totally into that either and don't tow that line because I see the some of the hypocrisy and idealism. But you're not going to see me go bonkers about EVs, claim that politics is the driver behind it all, or that government is the Boogey Man. Yes, many politicians have sold their soul, but I like to think that a select few on both sides will can and will do the right thing when it really matters.

I'm all for investing in clean energy if it makes energy less expensive, more plentiful and more reliable.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Just stirring the pot

It's Been 6 Years Since Greta Thunberg Warned We Have 5 Years to Stop the Extinction of Humanity
June 25, 2024



Thunberg deleted the tweet in 2023 which is amusing, considering it was the five-year mark.
While Thunberg’s post did not say humanity would end in five years — we did make it past 2023 after all — there was one glaring problem with it. The article that Thunberg linked misquoted the scientist who made the relevant remarks.
In January 2018, James Anderson, a professor of atmospheric chemistry at Harvard, gave a speech that was covered by Forbes.
Anderson remarked in that speech on damage he claimed climate change is doing to the “permanent ice” at the Earth’s poles, and its implications for the globe, according to Forbes.
“The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero,” he said, according to Forbes. “Can we lose 75-80 percent of permanent ice and recover? The answer is no.”
https://www.westernjournal.com/6-yea...tion-humanity/

Or: (US News and World Report - April 10, 2024)

[Efthreeoh]

We should kill about 6 billion people. My calculations indicate such. The Planet is desperate.

Since I did the calcs, I get to stay.

[gonzo]

UN climate chief.

Any of those lots near any large downtown has a used car salesman that's more trustworthy. Those lots with the gumby air filled thing flapping around.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Be careful of what you said. She may show up at your doorbell camera with an angry face

If she turned up at our place I'd give her a stiff drink or two to bring her back to reality.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Poor bastards had 15 seconds to run for their lives.

They didn't use their 15 seconds very well.
I have boxes of those dam batteries in our shop. I keep most of them in a fire proof safe vented to the outside but there are a lot of cells in bin boxes. I hate these dam batteries.

PS. you really should lighten up on Efthreeoh's Pinto

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

We should kill about 6 billion people. My calculations indicate such. The Planet is desperate.

"kill about 6 billion people" with this group of people it will never be enough.

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Since I did the calcs, I get to stay.

Sorry my friend, people like you and I will be the first to go. right think is not acceptable.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Poor bastards had 15 seconds to run for their lives. And people think they can escape their car, nothing like driving something worse than a 1971 shitbox Pinto.

How do you say GTFO in Chinese?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

They didn't use their 15 seconds very well.
I have boxes of those dam batteries in our shop. I keep most of them in a fire proof safe vented to the outside but there are a lot of cells in bin boxes. I hate these dam batteries.

PS. you really should lighten up on Efthreeoh's Pinto

Just sayin'

[Efthreeoh]

I heard Ford was going to resurrect the name "Pinto" for what is now called the Mustang Mach E, but Bill Ford nixed it right at the end, before Job 1.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

How do you say GTFO in Chinese?

I don't know but it think it looks a lot like turkey scratching (滾出去) so maybe that's where this went wrong?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I don't know but it think it looks a lot like turkey scratching (滾出去) so maybe that's where this went wrong?

Joking aside, such a tragedy. I guess those were EV battery cells?

[gonzo]

Let's talk about the giant rickshaw in the room.

Training/prevention was to grab a piss-ant fire extinguisher?
Poor bastards. Lousy way to go...burning while choking.

[Car-Addicted]

In case of a LiPo fire:

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Let's talk about the giant rickshaw in the room.

Training/prevention was to grab a piss-ant fire extinguisher?
Poor bastards. Lousy way to go...burning while choking.

At the two factories I've worked in there were always 1-3/4 or 2-1/2 inch fire stations. These buildings dated back to 1928 and 1956. Way before OSHA.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Let's talk about the giant rickshaw in the room.

Training/prevention was to grab a piss-ant fire extinguisher?
Poor bastards. Lousy way to go...burning while choking.

I'm rightly thinking 'Health and Safety' is a false byword over there, these people hadn't a clue what they were dealing with.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

How do you say GTFO in Chinese?

Depends, I only know cantonese, so I'll go with that
Simpliest would be: 走呀, which js just Run, the 呀 adds a little more emphasis to the action so it is more urgent

[Car-Addicted]

The Deadly Mining Complex Powering the EV Revolution
June 18, 2024
Extensive review of Chinese, Indonesian, South Korean and US corporate filings by Bloomberg Businessweek, as well as interviews with industry experts, shows that nickel from IMIP is present in the supply chain that feeds virtually every major seller of EVs.
There’s a strong chance that metal is being used, or will soon be, in at least some cars manufactured by Tesla Inc., as well as BMW, Ford, General Motors, Hyundai, Stellantis and Toyota, among others.

But, But, But our EV's are saving the planet.