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1) they are expensive 2) they have down time for charging requiring more buses to built and purchased to keep the schedule. 3) the cost of replacement batteries will be astronomical. 4) the cost of tires will be higher due to the weight of huge battery packs 5) the environmental impact of manufacturing and recycling the batteries will be massive and the pollution from tire wear will be significant. But when you can spend tax payer money on a problem you created then by all means spend away. |
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Seriously the country that gave us toxic drywall, poison dog food and melamine dosed baby formula should never be allowed to ship anything more complicated than chop sticks. |
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One of the biggest benefits for them has been reducing local air pollution. Which has notoriously been terrible in large Chinese cities. Interesting article: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...gan-with-buses |
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San Francisco has 89 years of electric bus maintenance records. But nobody really wants to know. Trolley buses so no numbers on battery life replacement. But all the rest of the required maintenance. Some of the new trolleys do have batteries so they can unhook to get around construction or get to other lines. But you know, people want to save the planet but they don't want to see electric lines overhead.
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I posted this at Rennlist, mods of the 718EV section removed it. EV folks are a touchy bunch, and I owned 2 at one time, these people are a cult.
Let's imagine we live in a world where all cars were EVs, and then a new invention comes along called the "Internal Combustion Engine!" Think how well they would sell: - A vehicle nearly half the weight - half the price - almost quarter the damage done to the road - can be refueled in 1/20th of the time - has a range up to 4 times the distance in all weather conditions - does not rely on environmentally damaging use of non-renewable rare earth elements to power it - uses far less steel and other materials - no looming $30k+ battery replacement cost - real engine noise and exciting powerband - can be driven on the track or in the mountains all day long - analog driving experience with manual transmission options - hand-built artisan craftsmanship for unique powertrains, like a swiss watch vs. mass produced apple watches Just think how excited people would be for such technology. Imagine how long the wait lists would be for real Porsche GT products! |
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Tech Tip: Don't park next to beat up rusted pick up trucks or EV's |
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"Stocks in China and Hong Kong sold off a massive $4.8 trillion in market capitalization since 2021, which according to HSBC, is more than the value of the Indian stock market." Maybe not the people to take business advice from? I do appreciate your pluckiness. |
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The majority of the buses locations...
The particulates levels in those locations... Maybe it's just me, but what the heck is the point? Like shooting an elephant with a cock Daisy.
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04-04-2024, 11:41 AM | #7366 |
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''EV's shouldn't be shoved down our throats''
2035? but for the wrong reasons, our own Bozo hasn't a clue of what he's talking about, no wonder he's heading for a no confidence blow. Last edited by M5Rick; 04-04-2024 at 12:54 PM.. |
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The case for EV is considerably more complicated today than in the 1900's. If the argument was which is the most cost effective and reliable transportation without government's fat thumb on the scale, the EV would be no more than 5% of the market. Today so many people are convinced the end of the earth is just around the corner while others see climate alarm as an opportunity for control of the masses. These are the drivers of this developing technology today. Just like the push for Ethanol lead to far more BTU's used to produce the Ethanol than it produces while increasing the use of fertilizer and the reduction of food crops, both of which are undesirable unintended consequences. The future will view this EV push in much the same light. Bad environmental decisions to fix a problem that doesn't exist leading to a massive redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to the wealthy and connected.
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What is this problem that doesn't exist?
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