F1 2021: Saudi Arabian GP - Jeddah (Dec 5)

tigermack · 12-05-2021, 01:50 PM

How do people stand behind this kid’s behavior on the track? Wtf.

M5Rick · 12-05-2021, 01:53 PM

^ It's the title decider and of course you'd just let the rocket engined car pass LOOOOOOOL

M5Rick · 12-05-2021, 01:57 PM

''Yeah it was quite eventful. A lot of things happened that I don't fully agree with, but I gave it my all. It'll be decided in Abu dhabi so hopefully we'll have a good weekend, we'll see''
Max.

F87source · 12-05-2021, 02:01 PM

Ok guess I was right about the red flags making this race long enough that I'd be awake to watch it, managed to catch the last 10 laps so that's nice.

F87source · 12-05-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

^ It's the title decider and of course you'd just let the rocket engined car pass LOOOOOOOL

Helmut Marko says a more powerful car around here doesn't scare them remember?

Crimson92 · 12-05-2021, 02:02 PM

Classy move max.

Chappers 71 · 12-05-2021, 02:04 PM

Well that was entertaining, all square going into the final race...grudge match

Be interesting what the data shows during the after race investigations.

Foghorn · 12-05-2021, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Merc bunch of wingers and cheats, Wolf and Ham belong in a cage.

Difficult to imagine a more moronic statement, but you nailed it.

minn19 · 12-05-2021, 02:10 PM

What a complete and utter cluster eff by FIA IMO. Everyone has something to legitimately complain about. Some more than others, especially if telemetry shows Max did break check and move on Lewis.

I feel this WDC is tainted for whoever wins and they really messed up the best opportunity for one of the greatest F1 seasons ever. At least it is still winner take all at the last race.

///M Power-Belgium · 12-05-2021, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by M2CS

The investigation is going to clearly show MAX hit the brakes to cause HAM to hit him. Stupid move by Max, but he was pissed for having to give the place back and he reacted on emotion.

HAM wasn't aware of the situation , HAM could get P 1 back by a gift from the 'FIA but he didn't knew it ..
MAX slowed down 'twice , but HAM didn't knew what was going on .

That's what HAM also just said after the race : Man I didn't knew what was going on ..

Chihuahua · 12-05-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by minn19

What a complete and utter cluster eff by FIA IMO. Everyone has something to legitimately complain about. Some more than others, especially if telemetry shows Max did break check and move on Lewis.

I feel this WDC is tainted for whoever wins and they really messed up the best opportunity for one of the greatest F1 seasons ever. At least it is still winner take all at the last race.

Couldn't agree more. I certainly hope for a better race next weekend with far less FIA intervention. Let these guys race FFS.

F87source · 12-05-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM wasn't aware of the situation , HAM could get P 1 back by a gift from the 'FIA but he didn't knew it ..
MAX slowed down 'twice , but HAM didn't knew what was going on .

That's what HAM also just said after the race : Man I didn't knew what was going on ..

Because it's hard to predict what a dirty driver in max Verstappen will do to defend his position...

So you guys kept calling ham a dirty cheat turns out the only dirty driver is Max....

uniqueMR · 12-05-2021, 02:17 PM

Max Verstappen, next time.

FIA

Mercedes $$$

M Hybrid V8 · 12-05-2021, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM wasn't aware of the situation , HAM could get P 1 back by a gift from the 'FIA but he didn't knew it ..
MAX slowed down 'twice , but HAM didn't knew what was going on .

That's what HAM also just said after the race : Man I didn't knew what was going on ..

You're correct, HAM had not received a message that MAX was to give P1 back. HAM was naturally confused as to why MAX slowed, but HAM did finally try to go around him. Problem was that's exactly when MAX brake checked him (I feel certain that data will show that) and he steered left to make sure HAM hit him. As soon as MAX felt the contact he floored the throttle.

F87source · 12-05-2021, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Of course ...You guys are afraid for a 'MAXICO !

You can bet on it...

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

So max bad the much faster car around this track, and Lewis managed to beat him with Max's dangerous driving and a broken front wing? Wow guess Lewis is the better driver.

GuidoK · 12-05-2021, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M2CS

He slowed and drove in a straight line up until the point he saw Lewis finally understanding to go by him, that's when Max hit the brakes AND moved left.

No he didn't, Ham drove right into hem while he kept straight
And his decelleration was steady, HAM could have easily gone to the left 200m before and overtake him.

I mean you see your competitor slow down. Why don't you overtake?!?!?!?!?
This decelleration was happening hundreds of meters, this is not a brake check.....

M Hybrid V8 · 12-05-2021, 02:23 PM

MAX knew he had to be dirty (he always is anyway), he was on the wrong tires and HAM was taking huge chunks of time out of him on the straights. MAX was increasing his gap in the corners; however, he was really using up his medium tires in the process. HAM getting pass was inevitable so MAX saw an opportunity to brake check HAM and force contact. Would have worked perfectly had the Mercedes sustained more damage, but it wasn't enough so HAM still won the race while Max picked up penalties and could receive a severe blow after the investigation into his brake check is complete.

M Hybrid V8 · 12-05-2021, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

No he didn't, Ham drove right into hem while he kept straight

Are you blind? The video clearly shows MAX swerving, swerving... as in NOT keeping straight. It also indicates MAX hit his brakes once Lewis got close.

M5Rick · 12-05-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M2CS

MAX knew he had to be dirty (he always is anyway), he was on the wrong tires and HAM was taking huge chunks of time out of him on the straights. MAX was increasing his gap in the corners; however, he was really using up his medium tires in the process. HAM getting pass was inevitable so MAX saw an opportunity to brake check HAM and force contact. Would have worked perfectly had the Mercedes sustained more damage, but it wasn't enough so HAM still won the race while Max picked up penalties and could receive a severe blow after the investigation into his brake check is complete.

Max was getting the hell out of Hams way and Ham hit him then Max naturally accelerated to get away from him, you need glasses mate.

M5Rick · 12-05-2021, 02:28 PM

Ham called into the stewards...

TheBingoBalls · 12-05-2021, 02:32 PM

Fk. Of course I miss a clusterfk of a race!

Ximian · 12-05-2021, 02:36 PM

This season is going a long way in establishing VER as a dirty driver undeserving of any success.

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