Future BMW model information

[mammut]

Is there any indication we will see a 3 Series counterpart to the X5, 5er, and 7er 45e models in the future? For example, M340e?

[Aaaaaaaaa]

INext sounds like it’s gonna be expensive. Like starting $80k easily approaching $100k with options.

[ynguldyn]

Added two small bits of info about G81 and G82.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added two small bits of info about G81 and G82.

I guess that when you say US for the G81 it also mean Canada?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I guess that when you say US for the G81 it also mean Canada?

Correct.

[ynguldyn]

Release schedule changes for M440i models and expected SOP for M3/M4 xDrives.

[MPSdriver]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added first hard details on I20.

So there's no information on the SOP for the i435 only the I20 (inext)?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by MPSdriver

So there's no information on the SOP for the i435 only the I20 (inext)?

I expect to know more about i4 within a month or so.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Release schedule changes for M440i models and expected SOP for M3/M4 xDrives.

Can you say something about which other markets (besides US/NA) will get the M440i RWD?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Can you say something about which other markets (besides US/NA) will get the M440i RWD?

I can tell that there will be a ROW model (that's what is listed in the SOP schedule for March 2021). As for which specific countries it'll go to, I have no idea.

[V-Eight]

But, from what I can read, there will be the LCI for the G20 in mid 2022? Also the M3 will benefit of its changes? rear lights/interiors/infotaiment?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by V-Eight

But, from what I can read, there will be the LCI for the G20 in mid 2022?

The LCI typically comes approximately three and half years in, and the G20 started production in late 2018. So yes, a mid 2022 timeframe makes sense.

Also the M3 will benefit of its changes? rear lights/interiors/infotaiment?

Just as every other M vehicle does when it’s non-M sibling does, yes, the M3 will get updated when the 3 Series does.

And yes, you correctly recognized that, because the M3 shares headlights with the 4 Series and M4, only it’s tail lights will change in 2022. For the headlights (assuming they do change for the M models again this generation like they did last; previous generations did not) it will have to wait for the 4 Series LCI, which should be in early 2024 if they stick to the traditional schedule.

[Ibiza]

Very interesting from the August 2020 update "A new version of G82 should show up in a couple of years or so. No information on what it is exactly yet."

Mild hybrid 48V? Could be related to the recent 8 series mule caught testing on the Ring that was thought to be a mid engine initially.

[MDM]

Any happenings on the F90 M5CS?

[psuibmw]

Who is this ynguldyn guy who knows everything

[ki__]

Come on, BMW, embrace Audi's decision to bring their new RS6 to the US market and do the same with your G81 M3 Touring. I put myself on a local dealer list to hopefully stir some interest (others should do the same).

[Prazision]

Originally Posted by ki__

Come on, BMW, embrace Audi's decision to bring their new RS6 to the US market and do the same with your G81 M3 Touring. I put myself on a local dealer list to hopefully stir some interest (others should do the same).

Yes, please why not 330is, with the 4cyl and manual, take my money...

[Flamingi]

Do you have a timeline when we can expect more information about the next gen mild hybrids? I had the opportunity to ride in an early Mercedes test mule with a 26kW/35hp ISG and that was really impressive. They also increased the timespan the ISG can support the engine to 30s (it's currently 10s iirc). Apparently they will throw out the 12V battery and will solely have a 48V LiIon battery and converters for everything that needs 12V. The engineer claimed they will save weight compared to the current mild hybrids (which use two batteries with 12V and 48V). No electric only drive though. Do you also have any information if BMW will change from a belt-driven generator to an ISG like Mercedes (imo the better implementation)?

I'm really interested in the possible use-cases of this new generation, especially in regards to the G82 LCI or M models in general. I think the second generation will have enough benefits to justify the increased weight.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by psuibmw

Who is this ynguldyn guy who knows everything

I have no idea.

[hector]

G42 220i would be non-U.S.?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Flamingi

Do you have a timeline when we can expect more information about the next gen mild hybrids? I had the opportunity to ride in an early Mercedes test mule with a 26kW/35hp ISG and that was really impressive. They also increased the timespan the ISG can support the engine to 30s (it's currently 10s iirc). Apparently they will throw out the 12V battery and will solely have a 48V LiIon battery and converters for everything that needs 12V. The engineer claimed they will save weight compared to the current mild hybrids (which use two batteries with 12V and 48V). No electric only drive though. Do you also have any information if BMW will change from a belt-driven generator to an ISG like Mercedes (imo the better implementation)?

I'm really interested in the possible use-cases of this new generation, especially in regards to the G82 LCI or M models in general. I think the second generation will have enough benefits to justify the increased weight.

As I mentioned in my previous updates, my horizon is now much shorter than it used to be. It has shrunk from 2-3 years to maybe 1.5, with only random bits available 2 years out or more. So, for this much shorter period of future, I can tell you that you shouldn't expect any significant drivetrain news besides the full EVs coming next year.

Besides, such details as the exact engineering design of a part have never been available to me.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by hector

G42 220i would be non-U.S.?

Of course.