Stovetop; Gas or induction?

Grumpy Old Man · 03-12-2019, 07:58 AM

I just had a thought, are the induction folks also future Tesla or EV owners and the gas folks are sticking with ICE? Just a thought.

Alfisti · 03-12-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Man

I just had a thought, are the induction folks also future Tesla or EV owners and the gas folks are sticking with ICE? Just a thought.

I'm a hardcore ICE guy and my next car absolutely must be a NA V8 or NA flat 6 but i've got no time for gas cooktops other than I loathe the digital inputs of induction and the pots moving on induction tops when stirring.

So i found one induction top with knobs .....

That may well sway me.

cotmfk · 03-12-2019, 09:10 AM

FORCED induction.

Duh.

saeyedoc · 03-12-2019, 09:17 AM

I think induction can compare with a high end gas stove, but not anything mid range or lower. We've been living in an apartment with a the upscale Whirlpool gas range, the large burner doesn't get hot enough to boil water quickly and doesn't get low enough to simmer. Even the small burners don't go low enough.
In comparison, the induction stove at our house works much better on both the high and low end, is much easier to clean. We had very few pieces of cookware that wouldn't work on the induction burners.

Alfisti · 03-12-2019, 09:57 AM

Yeah someone above compared to WOLF, OK I can spend 2K on an induction top or $6K on a WOLF gas top to get same performance.

My big issue remains the lack of heat on burners suitable for mid sized pots, takes me freaking ages to boil water and when i add food the boiling just STOPS.

Grumpy Old Man · 03-12-2019, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yeah someone above compared to WOLF, OK I can spend 2K on an induction top or $6K on a WOLF gas top to get same performance.

My big issue remains the lack of heat on burners suitable for mid sized pots, takes me freaking ages to boil water and when i add food the boiling just STOPS.

You need to get a good gas stove, I mentioned Wolf earlier and also said don't buy a crappy gas stove because you won't get all the benefits gas can offer.

My neighbour switched from Gas to Induction last year during their kitchen remodel. The induction stove was like $5K, and then they spent another $2K on pots and pans.

Alfisti · 03-12-2019, 10:26 AM

$5k is crazy and $2K on pots is insane, there's ALWAYS something on sale at like 75% off.

evoq007 · 03-12-2019, 10:27 AM

Correct you really just need to experience a better gas stove. In my new kitchen I went with open burner bluestar range. 25k BTU open flame burner can sear a steak on cast iron like nobodies business.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...52487218379709

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yeah someone above compared to WOLF, OK I can spend 2K on an induction top or $6K on a WOLF gas top to get same performance.

My big issue remains the lack of heat on burners suitable for mid sized pots, takes me freaking ages to boil water and when i add food the boiling just STOPS.

Grumpy Old Man · 03-12-2019, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

$5k is crazy and $2K on pots is insane, there's ALWAYS something on sale at like 75% off.

Admittedly they went hi-end, but looking on line the cooktops seem to start at about $2.5K US and then you need an oven on top of that.

Alfisti · 03-12-2019, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by evoq007

Correct you really just need to experience a better gas stove. In my new kitchen I went with open burner bluestar range. 25k BTU open flame burner can sear a steak on cast iron like nobodies business.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...52487218379709

They lost me with "easy cleaning", gimmie a fucking break. gas has it's advantages but even an easy clean gas top is still a massive PITA to clean.

I did notice this though....

https://www.bluestarcooking.com/cook...ction-cooktop/

tcphoto · 03-12-2019, 11:25 AM

I have never cared for electric. There are a couple different burner sizes, use the right tool for the job. Besides, when was the last time you saw electric in a restaurant worth a damn?

RickFLM4 · 03-12-2019, 11:43 AM

I think you may be confusing "regular" electric cooktops with induction. Both require electricity but they differ in how they go about cooking.

wrickem · 03-12-2019, 12:36 PM

We have induction in our shore house and gas in our regular house. I like them both and honestly don't notice that much of a difference in quickness or regulating the heat with either.

I will say that our Bosch (induction) can't ever look as fierce as our Thermador (Gas) does when all burners are on

Red Bread · 03-12-2019, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tcphoto

I have never cared for electric. There are a couple different burner sizes, use the right tool for the job. Besides, when was the last time you saw electric in a restaurant worth a damn?

I have that kettle. What do you use for pour over? I have a Beehouse into a Hario, but man it loses temp faster than I can drink it.

tcphoto · 03-12-2019, 01:47 PM

Chemex!

dreamingat30fps · 03-12-2019, 01:54 PM

This is all I see when I read all these boiling water complaints

CigarPundit · 03-12-2019, 02:05 PM

Yeah, I’m not getting that. I’ve never had trouble getting water to boil on a gas cooktop. Ever. At all. Not even a little bit. I can understand the appeal of a smooth induction cooktop from a cleaning standpoint, but then you are limited as to the type of cookware you can use, and I prefer being able to actually see the flame to a digital display. My flush cooktop is a Wolf and I don’t think an induction cooktop is going to give me better control of the heat. Mine has an entire low heat simmer range of adjustment in addition to the normal range.

upstatedoc · 03-12-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tcphoto

Chemex!

strange brew

UncleWede · 03-12-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Man

Yup, I mentioned that earlier. We've had a few blackouts that lasted a couple of days. I can always cook. Zero electronics on my Wolf except for the oven fan and light. Neither see much use and therefore no gremlins that drive costly repairs. I can only imagine the electronics in an induction cooker. What could possibly go wrong?

Breakfast is on......coffee black like my heart!

I see Jim stopped by for coffee

DETRoadster · 03-12-2019, 02:55 PM

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They lost me with "easy cleaning", gimmie a fucking break. gas has it's advantages but even an easy clean gas top is still a massive PITA to clean.

I'm imagining you with moon eyes wheel covers on your BMW, you know, for easy cleaning.

f8xdct · 03-12-2019, 02:57 PM

Induction, and i was a big supporter of gas. I still have the big range but got the wolf 15in induction top for my island. Has 2 burners and goes for 1200 if i remember.

TheWatchGuy · 03-12-2019, 04:07 PM

i must be doing things weird cause i never have the issues people are listing here with gas stoves.

food cooks evenly, water boils fine and quickly, etc.

only thing i like about the induction is you just wipe it off rather than taking the grills off and wiping down it down.

Ive had induction as well and tbh, didnt notice any difference in my cooking style or ease of cooking or anything like that.

Since Gas are cheaper, i stick to gas

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saeyedoc Captain 282 Rep 835 Posts Drives: 2013 Carrera S, 2013 Panny GTS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	I think induction can compare with a high end gas stove, but not anything mid range or lower. We've been living in an apartment with a the upscale Whirlpool gas range, the large burner doesn't get hot enough to boil water quickly and doesn't get low enough to simmer. Even the small burners don't go low enough. In comparison, the induction stove at our house works much better on both the high and low end, is much easier to clean. We had very few pieces of cookware that wouldn't work on the induction burners.
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Alfisti Brigadier General 6930 Rep 3,273 Posts Drives: 2008 Saab 9-3 Combi Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	Yeah someone above compared to WOLF, OK I can spend 2K on an induction top or $6K on a WOLF gas top to get same performance. My big issue remains the lack of heat on burners suitable for mid sized pots, takes me freaking ages to boil water and when i add food the boiling just STOPS.
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f8xdct Second Lieutenant 158 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 17 SO M3 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: NE iTrader: (0)	Induction, and i was a big supporter of gas. I still have the big range but got the wolf 15in induction top for my island. Has 2 burners and goes for 1200 if i remember.
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TheWatchGuy Colonel 3929 Rep 2,547 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: CO iTrader: (0)	i must be doing things weird cause i never have the issues people are listing here with gas stoves. food cooks evenly, water boils fine and quickly, etc. only thing i like about the induction is you just wipe it off rather than taking the grills off and wiping down it down. Ive had induction as well and tbh, didnt notice any difference in my cooking style or ease of cooking or anything like that. Since Gas are cheaper, i stick to gas __________________ @drunkcowatches on ig Am I a watch guy, or do i watch guys?
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