F1 2023: Mexican GP - Mexico City (Oct 29)

[M5Rick]

Max cleans up both FP's with Lando still behind and then Charlie, guess who's 4th

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Max cleans up both FP's with Lando still behind and then Charlie, guess who's 4th

They got a Mexican rain shower in FP-2 .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

More bad news for the others as RBR's budget penalty has ended as of now.
https://racingnews365.com/why-the-en...he-competition

Construction work on the new Red Bull wind tunnel has suffered some delays ..
This wind tunnel will be one of the best of the world .

Adrian Newey will love to play with it ...'

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Construction work on the new Red Bull wind tunnel has suffered some delays ..
Adrian Newey will love to play with it ...'

Only the amount of time the FIA lets him use it. If MAX keeps winning it will be the least uses wind tunnel in the world

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M-technik-3

Will race be cancelled in respect to Cat 5 hurricane wiping out parts of Mexico.

No-no, Max 5 will race.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I missed FP1.
Any news the commentators gave on those new RB floors for 2024 they were going to test in Mexico?

It wouldn't be a meaningful test for new upgrades in Mexico .

The Mexican air is too thin , because the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez track is 2,200 meters above sea level .

A 'big front and rear wing is required in Mexico to get the nessesary downforce .
The smaller turbo from the HONDA PU performs also better the thin Mexican air.
Mercedes and Ferrari have bigger turbos .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

No-no, Max 5 will race.

MAX will be the hurricane in Mexico

[Artemis]

Red Bull Racing hired two bodyguards for Verstappen for the Mexico GP race weekend.

Personally Verstappen didn't bother, but Red Bull decided to take no risks regarding a potentially hostile atmosphere: booing during the Austin post-race interview and podium ceremony (shouting "Checo"), threats on social media and instigating remarks by Papa Perez:

https://f1-insider.com/formel-1-max-...-mexiko-60326/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Only the amount of time the FIA lets him use it. If MAX keeps winning it will be the least uses wind tunnel in the world

Yes that's true . But the restricted wind tunnel time from the Red Bull budget penalty has ended now.
This means they will get more wind tunnel time in the new RB wind tunnel .
The 2024-RB20 will be very happy with that

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

But the restricted wind tunnel time from the Red Bull budget penalty has ended now

Not so quick:

How F1's new sliding scale aero testing rules work – and what impact they will have on racing
Furthermore, for the very first time, each team’s allowance of wind tunnel and CFD testing time will be defined by on-track performance.
From 2022 onwards, the allocations reduces for all bar the 9th- and 10th-placed teams. The top team would receive 70%, which sees their allocation drop to 28 runs per week. The 9th-placed team would receive the same allocation as the previous year, while the 10th-place team will see an increase by one run to 46.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...bNRbdYx8a.html

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Red Bull Racing hired two bodyguards for Verstappen for the Mexico GP race weekend.

Personally Verstappen didn't bother, but Red Bull decided to take no risks regarding a potentially hostile atmosphere: booing during the Austin post-race interview and podium ceremony (shouting "Checo"), threats on social media and instigating remarks by Papa Perez:
https://f1-insider.com/formel-1-max-...-mexiko-60326/

Checo's fans planned a MAX boycot in Mexico ....'

LEW is used to it , he brings always 2 bodyguards with him without threat and just for the show

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Not so quick:

How F1's new sliding scale aero testing rules work – and what impact they will have on racing
Furthermore, for the very first time, each team’s allowance of wind tunnel and CFD testing time will be defined by on-track performance.
From 2022 onwards, the allocations reduces for all bar the 9th- and 10th-placed teams. The top team would receive 70%, which sees their allocation drop to 28 runs per week. The 9th-placed team would receive the same allocation as the previous year, while the 10th-place team will see an increase by one run to 46.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...bNRbdYx8a.html

Yes I know , but actually It's old news from 2020 . But nice to read it again .

Red Bull got this season restricted wind tunnel time . But they build the best aero package anyway.
I mean Adrian Newey did a fantastic job with the RB19 and most of all with the RB19 Venturi tunnels .
I think Red Bull has at least a one season development advantage with the RB19 Venturi tunnels and the complete aero package .

Last week ,T. Coronel spoke with Newey at COTA . Newey said : The RB20 won't be slower !

[///M Power-Belgium]

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[jsf721]

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

They got a Mexican rain shower in FP-2 .

Aha as I predicted, should be rain free for quali and of course the race.
Glad these damn 'sprints' are not present this weekend which will give the drivers and crews a break, not a great lover of them.

[garyfried]

Is it just me or the English drivers being wankers by reporting Max and the other drivers when they think a wheel has been put out of place. Don't they realize that every corner has cameras and stewards that will reward a driver if he crosses the track limits. It sounds like whining to me, a spectator of 60 plus years.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by garyfried

Is it just me or the English drivers being wankers by reporting Max and the other drivers when they think a wheel has been put out of place. Don't they realize that every corner has cameras and stewards that will reward a driver if he crosses the track limits. It sounds like whining to me, a spectator of 60 plus years.

i'm sure it's not just the brit drivers only,there has to be some give and take as the stewards would be penalising more than half the field and any scrap of 'off line' info is used to gain an advantage, I'm afraid it's like a mothers meeting now.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by garyfried

Is it just me or the English drivers being wankers by reporting Max and the other drivers when they think a wheel has been put out of place. Don't they realize that every corner has cameras and stewards that will reward a driver if he crosses the track limits. It sounds like whining to me, a spectator of 60 plus years.

If I remember corectly, during the Austin race also other drivers than Hamilton and Russell, such as Perez and Norris, complained about alleged track limits violations by competitors.

"Headmaster, Johnny's been a bad boy": happens more and more lately.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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One to two journos are frothing at the mouth like Ripley to make Max look like he has a penalty! Just look at the way this heading is made when it's really Tsunoda who has the penalty.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...unoda-penalty/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Aha as I predicted, should be rain free for quali and of course the race.
Glad these damn 'sprints' are not present this weekend which will give the drivers and crews a break, not a great lover of them.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

At least one of them is wearing a RBR polo, wondering if they can wear knuckle-dusters there

[M5Rick]

I for the life of me cannot fathom that Vasseur allowed Charlie to be on a one stopper at Austin, then being told to let Carlo past and putting the 16 car on a dubious too low suspension level when he knew the bumps could compromise the plank thickness ruling, it was after all supposed to make him quicker.
Frankly Ferrari need to look for another team leader as Ferrari Fred s@cks.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...tegy-mistakes/