2020 Porsche 911: Meet the 992

[Mingwan]

Originally Posted by mk1-fan

Definitely, the interior is now on par, or ahead, of it's competitors.

minus the shifter which looks like you should shave with it, and move it by pinching it with your thumb and index finger because its so small. geezus, I hope they don't eventually remove the shifter all together and replace it with buttons...

[Darth One]

Solution : get it in manual

[gatorfast]

I like it but don't love it. The 991 is just so beautiful imo its hard to accept change but I'm sure it will grow on me. Cant say I am a fan of Porsche making the rear ends more homogenous throughout the lineup, the 992 now having similar styling to the 718, Macan, and Panamera.

[omegaSMP300]

Obviously a Porsche fan myself and I do like the 992.

However, I liked being able to differentiate between the models based on the wide body/rear light strip. The look also added a bit of exclusivity for the more expensive 4 models.

Definitely missing the NA engines but have to go with the times. I will be very interested in the hybrid models down the road given the potential performance (since the cars have already lost the sound that gave them so much soul).

[gonzo]

I like it, then I don't. Back and forth.
Back to like...a lot.
https://jalopnik.com/i-made-the-most...fig-1830746173

The PDK knob/plug/bump/nibblet is just plain strange.

[Funf6cyl]

As an owner of the 991.1S and a Miami Blue 991.2S, I love it! Looks like a modern day 993. The front GT3 suspension is a great thing, the wide body, tech, and revising what was the best dampening and rebound in the industry are all ways to improve a car that probably could have gone another 3 years and still stay ahead of everyone. The 992 will again redefine and reset the bar as all 911s before it have. It will be intriguing to see whether the GT3 retains an NA motor or not.

[Darth One]

i agree about redefining and resetting the bar - the claimed performance numbers already prove that.

but there is nothing left of the 993 in there...aesthetic or otherwise. lol

[Germanauto]

Looks incredibly similar. It's just a testament to the 991, which looks just as modern today as it did when it hit dealers a few years back.

The 991's interior aged just fine as well, but once the Panamera was released with a bigger screen and fewer buttons you knew the 911 was gonna need it as well.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

The 991's interior aged just fine as well, but once the Panamera was released with a bigger screen and fewer buttons you knew the 911 was gonna need it as well.

Considering the 991's interior was already aged when it was released, that's not saying much.

That said, the retro-vertical qualities of the dash and the distinct lack of the feeling of sitting 'in' the car -- both hallmarks of the 911 experience throughout its existence -- are both also antithetical to the car's transformation into a small luxury GT. It needed the Panamera's interior tech to offset those things. In that respect, it's already a success.

But I'm not a fan of less buttons. The Tim Allen in me wants them to push and light up so I can grunt in approval.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by gonzo

The PDK knob/plug/bump/nibblet is just plain strange.

It's indeed strange, but having a shift lever like stick thats in reality just a switch is also strange. I mean with an old fashioned automatic years ago there might have been cables etc going into the slushbox, but I think this is all electronic.

But maybe its better to do it just like ferrari, mclaren, lamborghini etc, and just have 2 or 3 pushbuttons there.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

Considering the 991's interior was already aged when it was released, that's not saying much.

That said, the retro-vertical qualities of the dash and the distinct lack of the feeling of sitting 'in' the car -- both hallmarks of the 911 experience throughout its existence -- are both also antithetical to the car's transformation into a small luxury GT. It needed the Panamera's interior tech to offset those things. In that respect, it's already a success.

But I'm not a fan of less buttons. The Tim Allen in me wants them to push and light up so I can grunt in approval.

Interesting take. You know more about Porsche than I do so you must have a point. But I think the 991's interior was a big step up from the 997 and besides the plasticky buttons on the console still looks fresh to me.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by mk1-fan

Is that you, Jeremy Clarkson?

Yes !

[overlook637]

Clean, classy, modern, and clearly Porsche. I like it. Nothing overstated. Only flaw is the rear end looks a little too much like Tesla design.

[RM7]

Maybe this has been covered, but what is this huge red-thing in the middle of the rear grille? It looks like a giant on/off switch.

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Maybe this has been covered, but what is this huge red-thing in the middle of the rear grille? It looks like a giant on/off switch.

third brake light

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Maybe this has been covered, but what is this huge red-thing in the middle of the rear grille? It looks like a giant on/off switch.

Yep: Third brake light. I was convinced Porsche wouldn't retain it when it was seen on 992 test mules in the wild a few months ago. It just didn't make sense stylistically and functionally. IIRC 991s (and most other current Porsches) have it inside the top of the rear window glass, which is fundamentally an interior bit, so I thought the ones on the mules were temporary to meet public lighting laws while the 992 interior was finalized.

I was wrong. I've got to think there was a practical reason that Porsche eliminated the previous TBL design that we're not informed about, because that thing pretty much ruins the car's posterior for me.

It's almost as bad as the 'alien eye' add-on TBC that were OEM on some late air-cooled 911s and the 964, like this one:



What I want to know is how the 992 TBC is visible when the rear wing is deployed?

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

Yep: Third brake light. I was convinced Porsche wouldn't retain it when it was seen on 992 test mules in the wild a few months ago. It just didn't make sense stylistically and functionally. IIRC 991s (and most other current Porsches) have it inside the top of the rear window glass, which is fundamentally an interior bit, so I thought the ones on the mules were temporary to meet public lighting laws while the 992 interior was finalized.

I was wrong. I've got to think there was a practical reason that Porsche eliminated the previous TBL design that we're not informed about, because that thing pretty much ruins the car's posterior for me.

It's almost as bad as the 'alien eye' add-on TBC that were OEM on some late air-cooled 911s and the 964, like this one:



What I want to know is how the 992 TBC is visible when the rear wing is deployed?

The 1995 993 had a similar, stupid "bucket handle" CHMSL too. Maybe they're just going full retro and will move it back inside next year.
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[SunnyD]

Third brake light is a bit odd, but I love the new design. I may have to consider a 992 S in the near future.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by SunnyD

Third brake light is a bit odd, but I love the new design. I may have to consider a 992 S in the near future.

Like, couldn't it be in the rear window, or a cool row of LEDs or something? But it looks like a giant breaker-switch the way it's implemented. Odd.

[overlook637]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Like, couldn't it be in the rear window, or a cool row of LEDs or something? But it looks like a giant breaker-switch the way it's implemented. Odd.

The cool row third LED is so 2017. 2018 is the fancy rear turn signals that chase outwards.

[1MOREMOD]

Or 70s

[RM7]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Maybe this has been covered, but what is this huge red-thing in the middle of the rear grille? It looks like a giant on/off switch.

This is what it remind me of: