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      12-31-2023, 05:42 PM   #4907
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I'm a little confused now.

if the car with M Sport package comes with "M" fender badge in every country on the planet except the US, does putting on the identical "M" fender badge on the same US BMW with M Sport package count as fake?

are are all M badges considered "fake" when they are not on true M cars like M3 and M5?
It wouldn’t offend me if someone retro fitted m fender badges to their US spec m sport Gx, technically I suppose they may be considered ‘fake’ though.

BMW m sport or m tech in old money come/came with m steering wheel, m gear knob, m door cills, m sport/tech body kit, front door trim or wing m badging, sports seats & sports suspension, they didn’t come factory fitted with M boot or M front grill badging…so I wouldn’t consider any m sport or m tech bmw to be ‘fake’

As for those that slap M3/4/5 badging on their 3/4/5 20d’s or 3/4/5 40is that’s fake M badging…and don’t even get me started on those ‘M’ tricolour grill stripes
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      12-31-2023, 05:46 PM   #4908
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It wouldn’t offend me if someone retro fitted m fender badges to their US spec m sport Gx, technically I suppose they may be considered ‘fake’ though.

BMW m sport or m tech in old money come/came with m steering wheel, m gear knob, m door cills, m sport/tech body kit, front door trim or wing m badging, sports seats & sports suspension, they didn’t come factory fitted with M boot or M front grill badging…so I wouldn’t consider any m sport or m tech bmw to be ‘fake’

As for those that slap M3/4/5 badging on their 3/4/5 20d’s or 3/4/5 40is that’s fake M badging…and don’t even get me started on those ‘M’ tricolour grill stripes
Thanks!

I think U.S. BMW buyers really get screwed over a lot... in most parts of the world, BMW gives the buyer the free option to delete badges during production.
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Debadging is the same thing as fake badges. One is adding to appear better and one is removing to appear worse.
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Debadging is the same thing a fake badges. One is adding to appear better and one is removing to appear worse.

Maybe some of us just prefer the uncluttered look of a debadged boot lid/tailgate
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Maybe some of us just prefer the uncluttered look of a debadged boot lid/tailgate
Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-
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Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-
then there's this... it was re-badged, de-badged and then finally re-badged back to a BMW... or something like that...
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Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-
Doesn’t your e93 M3 have an M boot badge
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Doesn’t your e93 M3 have an M boot badge
Yep, I ment to say adding a M badge to the boot.
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Yep, I ment to say adding a M badge to the boot.
Thanks for the clarity
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then there's this... it was re-badged, de-badged and then finally re-badged back to a BMW... or something like that...
I can’t believe someone put a BMW logo on their Supra. Amazing. So the Supra is based on a Z4 but the development and fine tuning were done by Toyota. They should’ve used the BMW 50th Anniversary logo to make it an even more special anniversary edition.
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I can’t believe someone put a BMW logo on their Supra. Amazing. So the Supra is based on a Z4 but the development and fine tuning were done by Toyota. They should’ve used the BMW 50th Anniversary logo to make it an even more special anniversary edition.
I sat in one at a Toyota dealer while waiting for them to do an oil change on my Lexus. The Supra's interior felt like 95% BMW to me.
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I sat in one at a Toyota dealer while waiting for them to do an oil change on my Lexus. The Supra's interior felt like 95% BMW to me.
It does look and feel like a BMW. Idrive was probably a shock to new non-BMW owners whereas we’ve been playing around with Idrive for at least 15 years now.
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It does look and feel like a BMW. Idrive was probably a shock to new non-BMW owners whereas we’ve been playing around with Idrive for at least 15 years now.
iDrive was introduced with the E65 7 Series in 2001 (followed by the E60 5 Series in 2004), so 22 years.
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iDrive was introduced with the E65 7 Series in 2001 (followed by the E60 5 Series in 2004), so 22 years.
My first time using Idrive was when I got an e60 5 series loaner when my ‘09 M3 was in for service. I should have qualified my statement by saying my first experience with Idrive was ~15 years ago
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It’s because it’s a BMW.
Project J29, shared with project G29 (Z4).

Saying it’s a Toyota is the same as saying the Yaris is a Toyota.
I know. I stated above the Supra was based on the z4. However, it should not have bmw hood and trunk logos
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No it shouldn’t, that’s right! LOL

That’s like those VW with Audi emblems.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen an Audi with fake Sline badges.
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Audi makes it easier. It’s used S and S-line in virtually every car and SUV, so all of them are some form of it.

Then AMG caught on, and then M did the same.
at least they don't do that with the Alpina name yet.
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Same reason as this!! I have called out a couple folks in the past about this nonsense.
And the loudest ones are always on the automatics.....

Nothing worse than a fart can slurring through an up shift!

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Appropriately posting this on page 228. Or should I say "///M228".
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It isn't, but this M badging actually looks fake. Hate the size difference.

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