F1 2024: Italian GP - Monza (Sep 1)

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

CLC in an interview said they planned on a 1 stopper but the team pitted him early. That's why Carlos said what he said.

You mean Charlie?

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

You mean Charlie?

Carlos on team radio said "they're never going to get to the end!". I think Ferrari also expected everybody to do a 1 stopper but it turns out everybody else thought it wasn't possible.

Charles said he wasn't sure whether it was possible due to the other teams reporting front left degradation, but he said that was the only way to win so he gave it a go and it worked.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

Carlos on team radio said "they're never going to get to the end!". I think Ferrari also expected everybody to do a 1 stopper but it turns out everybody else thought it wasn't possible.

Charles said he wasn't sure whether it was possible due to the other teams reporting front left degradation, but he said that was the only way to win so he gave it a go and it worked.

Thanks, Charlie asked why they brought him in so early. Thought you were talking about that. I didn't hear Carlos's comment.

Found this:

Carlos Sainz has detailed the "crisis" he dealt with during the Italian Grand Prix, as Charles Leclerc stormed to victory in front of the Tifosi.

The Spanish driver, revealed that whilst Ferrari's rivals were peeling in for their second round of pit stops, his Pirellis reached a critical point, which they "miraculously recovered" from.

Having started fifth at Monza, Sainz, who like Leclerc only stopped once, spent most of his afternoon in contention for a podium after George Russell fell down the order with damage on lap one.

However, Ferrari opted to run him longer into the grand prix than his team-mate and the McLarens, which ultimately cost him race time and the chance to visit the rostrum on his final Italian Grand Prix for the Scuderia.

Whilst Leclerc triumphed, 29-year-old said there was a period of the race when he did not believe the aggressive, and ultimately race-winning, one-stop strategy would be possible.

"For some reason, Charles [Leclerc] and I went through a phase of high degradation on the hards [tyres].

"And then they miraculously recovered, and that's what allowed us to go to the end.

"But there was a point when the others started boxing that the tyre was really in crisis, but then the last 10 laps, the tyre recovered, and we could keep a decent pace to the end."

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

"But there was a point when the others started boxing that the tyre was really in crisis, but then the last 10 laps, the tyre recovered, and we could keep a decent pace to the end."

According to a commentator, first the tires grain, like a bubble wrap forming, and then sometimes the graining just goes away and the tire becomes smooth again. A very weird but well known phenomenon.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Perfect, best one yet

I swear it's the real Max in that cartoon. Sounds exactly like him.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

According to a commentator, first the tires grain, like a bubble wrap forming, and then sometimes the graining just goes away and the tire becomes smooth again. A very weird but well known phenomenon.

I'm just glad they pulled it off for Charlie's sake, planned or not!!!!

[Rono63]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I'm just glad they pulled it off for Charlie's sake, planned or not!!!!

If my McLaren guys couldn’t win I’m glad it was Charlie.

If we stop using the Ferrari strategy book from a couple years ago, might have a chance for the WCC.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

What you you say, all car, cheating rocket ship. Driver has no talent and it’s just the car.

But I’m not so stupid to say something so childish and as we know the car and driver are both factors. Today, same car that was dominating at the start, you would be laughing but no the car isn’t working to Max driving style that he needs on the nose, arguable others might be able to make it do more even Perez was close at the last race.

Each driver has their time some longer than others, some get 7 championships if they are truly talented others, well others can’t quite make it.

Also remember the way the same group painted Toto/MB, (basically evil) for “not letting Bottas win.” Now said group is all over McLaren/Brown being idiots for allowing their two drivers to race and not having Oscar move out of the way for I can’t start a race from pole Lando.

[Killed by Death]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

SF: Super Ferrari.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by minn19

Also remember the way the same group painted Toto/MB, (basically evil) for “not letting Bottas win.” Now said group is all over McLaren/Brown being idiots for allowing their two drivers to race and not having Oscar move out of the way for I can’t start a race from pole Lando.

Depends if you (McLaren) want to win a WCC or not. If you do, then you want all the points to one driver. If you don't want the WDC, then yeah, let them take each other out and make sure another team passes your 2 drivers in the process. When 2 drivers race, it opens the door to getting overtaken. Either way, it's entertaining for everyone. Unless you want Max to win, then you don't want McLaren to focus on one driver.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by G30M

Depends if you (McLaren) want to win a WCC or not. If you do, then you want all the points to one driver. If you don't want the WDC, then yeah, let them take each other out and make sure another team passes your 2 drivers in the process. When 2 drivers race, it opens the door to getting overtaken. Either way, it's entertaining for everyone. Unless you want Max to win, then you don't want McLaren to focus on one driver.

Totally get that, my post was more a commentary of how the discussions here have gone on the topic over the years. When Toto/MB did it to Bottas, they were evil jerks. Now when Brown/McLaren do it and let them race like people here supposedly wanted MB to do, they are idiots and screwing Lando.

My own opinion could Lando catch Max, sure he’s not mathematically out of it. Is it realistic, I’d and I’m sure most would say no. Max would have to go on a run of DNFs and I still don’t think his car is that bad that he won’t be on podiums the rest of the year. It wouldn’t surprise me if he got a couple of more wins either.

So I think McLaren is kicking the can down the road and don’t want to make the decision yet as to who is the top driver. Next year if they come out of the gates as the top team and have a driver(s) with a truly legitimate shot at winning the WDC, then they’ll have to. Or they are idiots

[G30M]

Originally Posted by minn19

My own opinion could Lando catch Max, sure he’s not mathematically out of it. Is it realistic, I’d and I’m sure most would say no.

If you count all the points that both Lando and McLaren have thrown away since day 1 of this year, I think he's already caught Max.

But then again, there's no reason to count those points, what ifs did not happen, so yeah, whether he will or won't catch makes the season exciting to everybody to watch.

I don't think he will, between Lando and McLaren (and Oscar) they will be taking points off Lando at every opportunity, along with Ferrari Mercedes and Red Bull.

But it does make the season entertaining!

[Killed by Death]

[Killed by Death]

LeCrash strikes again

Rear-end collision in the Monaco hairpin:
- Charles Leclerc was involved in a minor rear-end collision while driving his nearly 400,000 Euro Ferrari Purosangue in Monaco. Fortunately, the damage seems to be minimal.
- Leclerc only received his new Ferrari Purosangue in April at a special handover in Monte-Carlo. The car, celebrated with a red cloth unveiling, now bears its first scratch after this small incident.
- The collision occurred during a drive through Monaco, specifically at the iconic hairpin corner, a well-known part of the Formula 1 circuit.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_kxu...RlODBiNWFlZA==

[G30M]

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

LeCrash strikes again

Rear-end collision in the Monaco hairpin:
- Charles Leclerc was involved in a minor rear-end collision while driving his nearly 400,000 Euro Ferrari Purosangue in Monaco. Fortunately, the damage seems to be minimal.
- Leclerc only received his new Ferrari Purosangue in April at a special handover in Monte-Carlo. The car, celebrated with a red cloth unveiling, now bears its first scratch after this small incident.
- The collision occurred during a drive through Monaco, specifically at the iconic hairpin corner, a well-known part of the Formula 1 circuit.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_kxu...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Charlie's situation is as the usual things in France ..Charlie the fender bender
Driving in France and parking is holding your breath (!)
That's where car bumpers are made for ...

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Charlie's situation is as the usual things in France ..Charlie the fender bender
Driving in France and parking is holding your breath (!)
That's where car bumpers are made for ...

Hope he doesn't get any points on his Super License

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Hope he doesn't get any points on his Super License

I don't think so my friend . Charlie is the 'King of France and Italy

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

LeCrash strikes again

Rear-end collision in the Monaco hairpin:
- Charles Leclerc was involved in a minor rear-end collision while driving his nearly 400,000 Euro Ferrari Purosangue in Monaco. Fortunately, the damage seems to be minimal.
- Leclerc only received his new Ferrari Purosangue in April at a special handover in Monte-Carlo. The car, celebrated with a red cloth unveiling, now bears its first scratch after this small incident.
- The collision occurred during a drive through Monaco, specifically at the iconic hairpin corner, a well-known part of the Formula 1 circuit.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_kxu...RlODBiNWFlZA==

''It was noshing, just a hairpin inshident''

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Charlie's situation is as the usual things in France ..Charlie the fender bender
Driving in France and parking is holding your breath (!)
That's where car bumpers are made for ...

Not many large cars in Paris from what I can see.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Not many large cars in Paris from what I can see.

For the french , the cars are always too large