Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I wouldn't worry too much about Tesla and Musk going out of business.

Tesla's Dojo Supercomputer: A Paradigm Shift In Supercomputing?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevend...h=67dc94357bc2

I'm thinking he will have "FU" money for some time.

Agree. Dojo will be the potential breakthrough they need to really refine V12 of FSD. Plus they can farm out its use with other companies. And train the AI of the Tesla robots to come.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Tesla is so far ahead not even funny

[NikMN]

Tesla owned by child who likes to trough 🏖👶 tentrums because someone was mean to him on Twitter. You know this is a bmw forum right?

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by NikMN

Tesla owned by child who likes to trough 🏖👶 tentrums because someone was mean to him on Twitter. You know this is a bmw forum right?

I have recently become aware that this is a BMW forum.

[NikMN]

Good start. We talk about oil leaks why our cars don't start not getting drunk on cult coolaid

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by NikMN

Good start. We talk about oil leaks why our cars don't start not getting drunk on cult coolaid

Well, I’m new here and still learning the ropes.

[Car-Addicted]

You may have noticed that this thread is under:
General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos / Still want an EV?

Tesla discussion sounds pretty germaine to me.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You may have noticed that this thread is under:
General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos / Still want an EV?

Tesla discussion sounds pretty germaine to me.

[M5Rick]

Latest from the Luton airport car park fire is that a man was arrested over the car park fire where around 1500 cars were destroyed and then let out on bail. It is not clear what he was arrested for but is believed to be the owner of a vehicle that was suspected of self igniting but the supporting video evidence is sketchy and the destroyed vehicles are being removed by crane with no one being allowed into the car park.
https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023...p-to-1500-cars

[NikMN]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You may have noticed that this thread is under:
General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos / Still want an EV?

Tesla discussion sounds pretty germaine to me.

well i'll be dipped. In that case if you want to get a ev get one from respectable car company.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Elon power!

[M5Rick]

Here's a drone vid of the aftermath of the Luton fire disaster and at the end of it you can see a late model 911 cab or Boxter on the right seemingly not fire damaged but on its side against a collapsed wall.
https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023...oving-vehicles

[KRS_SN]

Elon power indeed


https://www.theguardian.com/business...-business-live

Banks sitting on $2bn losses after Elon Musk's Twitter takeover - report
The banks that helped fund Elon Musk’s takeover of social network Twitter, now renamed X, are sitting on losses of as much as $2bn, the Wall Street Journal has reported.

Musk borrowed $13bn (£11bn) to fund the $44bn deal – a huge sum for an individual to take on. Yet the takeover quickly went sour, with Musk at first trying to get out of the deal after the valuation of technology companies plunged amid rising interest rates.

He then fired the company’s top leadership, and less than a month later warned Musk said it was not out of the question that the network would go bust. Since then he has struggled with falling advertiser revenues.

Usually banks who finance big deals like this would offload the debt to others, walking away with a handsome profit. That has proven much more difficult in the Twitter deal because of the bad timing, so they have hung on to the debt in the hope that its value recovers. The Journal reported:

The banks currently expect to take a hit of at least 15%, or roughly $2bn, when they sell the debt, people familiar with the matter said. That would mean hundreds of millions in losses for those holding the largest pieces, which include Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Barclays and MUFG. BNP Paribas, Société Générale and Mizuho were also involved.

After holding the debt for a year—an eternity in the corporate-finance world—the banks, which had hoped they could sell it by Labor Day, have recently begun preparations to try to unload at least some of it, the people said.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Elon power indeed

Too big to fail? Betting against Musk is a poor bet with all the projects he has going and all the government contracts his companies get. I say that as someone who is not a wild fan of Musk's projects. You got to love a guy who half the world thinks is the savior and the other half thinks he is the anti christ.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Too big to fail? Betting against Musk is a poor bet with all the projects he has going and all the government contracts his companies get. I say that as someone who is not a wild fan of Musk's projects. You got to love a guy who half the world thinks is the savior and the other half thinks he is the anti christ.

Enron...

[M3WC]

Honda, GM scrap $5 bln plan to co-develop cheaper EVs


https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ws-2023-10-25/

[Car-Addicted]

In related news:
Officials celebrate Pa.’s two hydrogen hubs but many details remain shrouded in secrecy
Oct. 24, 2023
A hydrogen hub doesn’t refer to a single production facility; rather it encompasses all of the infrastructure needed to consume, produce, store, and transport hydrogen and any byproducts.
MACH2 will produce predominantly green and pink hydrogen, according to its website.

Advocates for aggressive emission reductions see green hydrogen as the gold standard. This process strictly uses electricity from renewables like wind and solar to separate hydrogen from water, thereby creating no emissions and rendering carbon capture unnecessary. Pink hydrogen uses nuclear power.
https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/202...nfrastructure/

My read is the battery bus program is literally up in smoke so it time to go with hydrogen to fuel the mass transit system.

Again no one taks about the energy to make green energy or in this case "blue hydrogen".
How green is blue hydrogen?
Far from being low carbon, greenhouse gas emissions from the production of blue hydrogen are quite high, particularly due to the release of fugitive methane. For our default assumptions (3.5% emission rate of methane from natural gas and a 20-year global warming potential), total carbon dioxide equivalent emissions for blue hydrogen are only 9%-12% less than for gray hydrogen. While carbon dioxide emissions are lower, fugitive methane emissions for blue hydrogen are higher than for gray hydrogen because of an increased use of natural gas to power the carbon capture. Perhaps surprisingly, the greenhouse gas footprint of blue hydrogen is more than 20% greater than burning natural gas or coal for heat and some 60% greater than burning diesel oil for heat.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/....1002/ese3.956

Stupid people making stupid laws spending the tax dollars of folks who know better. There will be a reckoning.

[gonzo]

The reckoning for these self proclaimed 'adults' is beginning and it's going to get ugly. Lots of screaming "It was you, not me".
Watch.

[Car-Addicted]

These idiots are going to destroy our planet in the name of being green but it was never about results it's always been about about virtue signaling and graft.

[gonzo]

^
grift

[NikMN]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

These idiots are going to destroy our planet in the name of being green but it was never about results it's always been about about virtue signaling and graft.

Appliance with four wheels.

[M5Rick]

Now the greenie jso are attacking our history.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sca_...bE7c-gbOk,st:0