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      07-22-2024, 04:39 PM   #419
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LEW's move makes me think about his Silverstone-Copse dirty trick ..
But this time he moved to the right side ...

There was enough space for MAX's overtaking attempt with DRS ..
But LEW decided to make that space too small for MAX.

#ElbowsWideOpen (!)

Some say : It was LEW's defence or a tactical maneuver ...

The $Million Dollar question is ...How far can you go ?

According to the stewards : It was a racing incident (!)
'Racing incident' is akin to a get out clause for the stewards when they know it could lead to opening a can of worms.
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i didn't think it was a power issue, he said couldn't get the car to turn.

Also Hungaroring is notoriously difficult to overtake, deemed the most difficult track to overtake bar Monaco
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If they change the PU it’s almost an admittance that the car isn’t going to do well so change it now and sacrifice the race. A lot of jeopardy for the first lap at spa it rarely goes without incident.

Maybe they have another update planned for post the summer shut ‘ahem’ down. If they don’t it will be interesting to see if they wait until next season to fix the bigger issues in the car. Not long now before Newey leaves either, rumours are they have asked him back to help with the car before he goes having removed him from more. Meetings recently.
If the HP output from his HONDA PU is (too much)! reduced , then MAX will get a new PU in SPA.
They will keep his old PU to run the FP's .

The new PU was planned for SPA , but it depends from the HP output ...
Other updates are not planned for SPA .

Newey ?
They always can ask him his support in the situation, Newey is still part of the RB Team and his RB17. supercar is already running ..
But Newey has said in the beginning of this season that something was really wrong with RB20. design
As we know that was and still is the RB20 setup issues and the front suspension mess..

In other words : The situation looks bad for MAX and the RB Team .
It's useless to talk about Checo ...
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I get what you are saying, but in the end it is all about winning. So I say yes, of course you get him if you can.
As Vaseur said, getting/signing/trying to sign Max is akin to Newey. You simply cannot say no to someone of that calibre.
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i didn't think it was a power issue, he said couldn't get the car to turn.

Also Hungaroring is notoriously difficult to overtake, deemed the most difficult track to overtake bar Monaco
Definitely not much passing action especially now that these cars just dump all the dirty air behind them again - another thing the FIA has forgotten all about. The other year when Max started 10th and won - no one would have ever expected him to do that and in such a tidy, quick, and effortless manner as he did.
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i didn't think it was a power issue, he said couldn't get the car to turn.

Also Hungaroring is notoriously difficult to overtake, deemed the most difficult track to overtake bar Monaco
Max got a power issue . A strat. issue , but the pitwall fixed it.

MAX can turn the car . MAX locked completely up , because LEW closed the door with his elbows wide .

The marshals : It was a racing incident (!)
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Max got a power issue . A strat. issue , but the pitwall fixed it.

MAX can turn the car . MAX locked completely up , because LEW closed the door with his elbows wide .

The marshals : It was a racing incident (!)
GP and Hannah are powerless and are just pawns, reminds me of the Ferrari situation and this all goes back to schizophrenic Wache taking over, who TF let him take over and I feel that Newey doesn't get on with him.
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Think LEW should have talked to race winner Oscar and not Lando
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If the HP output from his HONDA PU is (too much)! reduced , then MAX will get a new PU in SPA.
They will keep his old PU to run the FP's .

The new PU was planned for SPA , but it depends from the HP output ...
Other updates are not planned for SPA .

Newey ?
They always can ask him his support in the situation, Newey is still part of the RB Team and his RB17. supercar is already running ..
But Newey has said in the beginning of this season that something was really wrong with RB20. design
As we know that was and still is the RB20 setup issues and the front suspension mess..

In other words : The situation looks bad for MAX and the RB Team .
It's useless to talk about Checo ...
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Sounds familiar ... umm .. I think Lewis Hamilton in 2022 (?2023)
I think any World Champion driver is inclined to complain during a race if they think the car has issues. We've heard it from just about every one of them at various times. Max's whining here seemed on another level as it went on and on. Normally we might hear him complain about tires or a setting, but the complaining here almost suggested that he was not in agreement with anything the team had planned for the race which is a more serious problem than some unexpected racing glitches. It will be very interesting how this proceeds into Spa. If they can't fix the car, can he change his personality?
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I think any World Champion driver is inclined to complain during a race if they think the car has issues. We've heard it from just about every one of them at various times. Max's whining here seemed on another level as it went on and on. Normally we might hear him complain about tires or a setting, but the complaining here almost suggested that he was not in agreement with anything the team had planned for the race which is a more serious problem than some unexpected racing glitches. It will be very interesting how this proceeds into Spa. If they can't fix the car, can he change his personality?
IMHO. MAX was right ..
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IMHO. MAX was right ..
What was Horner doing, playing lap top solitaire..
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I think any World Champion driver is inclined to complain during a race if they think the car has issues. We've heard it from just about every one of them at various times. Max's whining here seemed on another level as it went on and on. Normally we might hear him complain about tires or a setting, but the complaining here almost suggested that he was not in agreement with anything the team had planned for the race which is a more serious problem than some unexpected racing glitches. It will be very interesting how this proceeds into Spa. If they can't fix the car, can he change his personality?
he was up until at least 3.20am the day of the grand prix when he decided to hand over his iracing car in the 24 hrs of spa to another sim racer.

so i put that down to sleep deprivation this time at least
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he was up until at least 3.20am the day of the grand prix when he decided to hand over his iracing car in the 24 hrs of spa to another sim racer.

so i put that down to sleep deprivation this time at least
MAX never sleeps before 2-3 AM .
MAX is an evening and night type of person , Just like me .

In others words :
In the morning we really s@ck .
In the evenings and nights , we are like superman.
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MAX never sleeps before 2-3 AM .
MAX is an evening and night type of person , Just like me .

In others words :
In the morning we really s@ck .
In the evenings and nights , we are like superman.
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MAX locked completely up , because LEW closed the door with his elbows wide .

LOL. ok.
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This one for a good reason, FIA concluded in the investigation that HAM could have given MAX more room.
This video was literally generated by AI, wasn't it? Yikes.
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