The N54 is nothing

dlbrooks18 · 08-21-2009, 09:16 AM

just wait for Horsepower Freaks to release a turbo upgrade for the N54 ..

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...384&highlight=

ToadHollow · 08-21-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hecticrulerz

LOL man one nice dam ride how much do those run like 250K?

OMG ........ your sig is like

..... respect the boobies!

XPO186 · 08-21-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

I'll be the guy to go against the grain. It's an over priced Ford, regardless of how much power it has.

I'll take my slow N54 anyday over that POS. Not a huge domestic car fan here, sorry guys.

My .02

I'm sorry, if you don't recognize an incredible piece of engineering staring you in the face then you just don't like cars.

You know the the good ol' 3er, being BMW's flagship car isn't a "luxury import" everywhere it's sold... In Europe, they are as common as minivans and mustangs are over here in the US. Don't get me wrong, I love my E92 a lot, but if you actually prefer "the honda accord of Europe* over a "POS over priced Ford GT", you just have bad taste.

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Originally Posted by Digital.James

You're entitled to your opnion, but honestly you have no clue.

The GT was not built by your average Ford worker. It has impecable details in it and is an instant classic. Much rarer than your average Ferrari 360

+1000000

These cars were only built for MY05 and MY06 and the full production run was never even completed.

To put things into perspective for those who just don't get it:

This stamp is in the engine bay and has names of the two engineers who HAND BUILT the engine. Does that sound familiar? Let's see, Lambos, Ferraris, AMGs, etc. are all hand built engines.

Now if you can't appreciate that just because it was hand built in Michigan by a couple of American guys then you have some serious issues.

GreenPlease · 08-21-2009, 10:08 AM

There are two of them in my community. Took one for a rip down 535. Wow, what a car, though I have to say that the vehicle squats quite a bit while accelerating. A suprising amount for such a high performance car. Also a major PITA to get in and out of.

You forgot to mention the B&W sound system

wj4 · 08-21-2009, 10:11 AM

That's because an N54 is not a supercar.

blue2fire · 08-21-2009, 10:18 AM

I would rather have this Ford than a Carrera GT and that isn't a joke. It feels more endearing to drive something that looks this good and goes this well but has a blue oval on it.

This is as close as we will get to a blue collar supercar.

Year's_End · 08-21-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

I'll be the guy to go against the grain. It's an over priced Ford, regardless of how much power it has.

I'll take my slow N54 anyday over that POS. Not a huge domestic car fan here, sorry guys.

My .02

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

That's all you have to say? Wow, great response! Sure glad everyone is entitled to an opinion here.

there, this is what makes you a tool. try looking past the badge.

XPO186 · 08-21-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedges

wowowow! I wonder what the retail on one of those things?

I'd say something like 150k before markups... but probably more since it is no longer in production.

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Originally Posted by dlbrooks18

just wait for Horsepower Freaks to release a turbo upgrade for the N54 ..

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...384&highlight=

Is an HPF N54 supposed to be comparable performance wise? You know there are guys that put enough money into their civics to completely slaughter HPF M3s right?

You just can't compare numbers and think two cars are on par with each other... The GT is just on a different planet from ANY 3er you can throw at it.

If you want to continue talking aftermarket, check this:

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Originally Posted by ToadHollow

OMG ........ your sig is like

..... respect the boobies!

LoL! Mo' boobiez plz!

Digital.James · 08-21-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by XPO186

I'd say something like 150k before markups... but probably more since it is no longer in production.

Is an HPF N54 supposed to be comparable performance wise? You know there are guys that put enough money into their civics to completely slaughter HPF M3s right?

You just can't compare numbers and think two cars are on par with each other... The GT is just on a different planet from ANY 3er you can throw at it.

If you want to continue talking aftermarket, check this:

LoL! Mo' boobiez plz!

Youd be lucky to find one for 250k these days. More like 300k

XPO186 · 08-21-2009, 10:32 AM

^U speak da troof

JB991 · 08-21-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

there, this is what makes you a tool. try looking past the badge.

I don't care if it was built by Chevy you asshat. I wouldn't care if I was driving an Accord either. I don't like domestic vehicles, plain and simple. Fastest car, slowest car, best or worst fuel economy, hand built, robot built, I don't give a rats ass.

This is my first BMW, probably will be my last as I really am not into a car with numerous problems that can't be fixed. It has nothing to do with badge names, so you can hang that one up.

You guys are comparing a 40K BMW to a car that costs easily 5X more.
Everyone is hung up on saying it's a great car.... IMO it's not... simple

Year's_End · 08-21-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

I don't care if it was built by Chevy you asshat. I wouldn't care if I was driving an Accord either. I don't like domestic vehicles, plain and simple. Fastest car, slowest car, best or worst fuel economy, hand built, robot built, I don't give a rats ass.

This is my first BMW, probably will be my last as I really am not into a car with numerous problems that can't be fixed. It has nothing to do with badge names, so you can hang that one up.

You guys are comparing a 40K BMW to a car that costs easily 5X more.
Everyone is hung up on saying it's a great car.... IMO it's not... simple

asshat, haha realy mature broski.

sorry, people that are unwilling to get past biases, like the one you have for domestics, annoy me.

JB991 · 08-21-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

asshat, haha realy mature broski.

.

As opposed to calling someone a tool for not liking domestic vehicles, or vehicles that you like?

Are you the pot or kettle?

XPO186 · 08-21-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

I don't care if it was built by Chevy you asshat. I wouldn't care if I was driving an Accord either. I don't like domestic vehicles, plain and simple. Fastest car, slowest car, best or worst fuel economy, hand built, robot built, I don't give a rats ass.

This is my first BMW, probably will be my last as I really am not into a car with numerous problems that can't be fixed. It has nothing to do with badge names, so you can hang that one up.

You guys are comparing a 40K BMW to a car that costs easily 5X more.
Everyone is hung up on saying it's a great car.... IMO it's not... simple

So you don't like it simply on the basis that it's built in America? You are the undisputed king of the simple-minded.

And how does saying "It's an over priced Ford" NOT make it a "badge name" issue?

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

asshat, haha realy mature broski.

sorry, people that are unwilling to get past biases, like the one you have for domestics, annoy me.

Dude you're completely right... he is an asshat.

Year's_End · 08-21-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

As opposed to calling someone a tool for not liking domestic vehicles, or vehicles that you like?

Are you the pot or kettle?

neither. i'm just surprised that someone can't accept a ~$250K car as an acceptable vehicle and would rather own a $50k mass-produced one instead. btw, you do know that there's very little ford involvment in regards to the vehicle's engineering. for instance, lotus designed the chassis.

whatever. it's your opinion.

JB991 · 08-21-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by XPO186

So you don't like it simply on the basis that it's built in America? You are the undisputed king of the simple-minded.

And how does saying "It's an over priced Ford" NOT make it a "badge name" issue?

Dude you're completely right... he is an asshat.

I'll retract the word Ford and use American made vehicle. Does that make it better or worse? No, it doesn't change a thing.
Isn't this the same car that was recalled when first produced and delivered to owners for issues regarding catching on fire or something of the sort? I'm not 100% on what the exact issue was, but it was a serious one.
It's way further into production now, so I'm sure that issue is resolved, but just because someone built it with their bare hands doesn't make it a great vehicle.
Sure it's fast. For the hundreds of thousands of dollars it costs, it should be. To me it's not on par with some higher end cars that come from foreign makers especially when you compare costs, styling.

CHARLEYBROWN · 08-21-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

You guys are comparing a 40K BMW to a car that costs easily 5X more.
Everyone is hung up on saying it's a great car.... IMO it's not... simple

Not trying to fan the flames here but you were actually the one comparing it to your BMW when you said you would take your 3er over it...

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

I'll take my slow N54 any day over that POS. Not a huge domestic car fan here, sorry guys.

And to add to the hand built engine fact, ford has been hand building SVT engines the same way since as far back as 1996. possibly longer IE cobras, Lightnings...

CHARLEYBROWN · 08-21-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmf75

Isn't this the same car that was recalled when first produced and delivered to owners for issues regarding catching on fire or something of the sort? I'm not 100% on what the exact issue was, but it was a serious one.

The recall you may be referring to it the rear control arms. The cast aluminum that was used on the control arms were recalled to replace them with forged as they discovered the cast ones could possibly crack in extreme circumstances. Don't know if any actually did...

JB991 · 08-21-2009, 12:21 PM

^^ Actually it was the OP that said the N54 was nothing. As stated in the thread title.

The control arms was one of many issues with the car when it came out. Ford tested a car built one way, I think there was a handful or two tested. Then when it came to the actual production of the car trying to fill the demand, Ford and all who were involved building the car went cheap on how the car was produced. It wasn't the same car/parts as what was initially tested on the track. That led to the numerous problems. There is a lot more to the initial productions that came out then what some of you seem to know.

anthony @ eas · 08-21-2009, 12:37 PM

I still think the Ford GT is one of the best looking cars. I'd love to have one.

Smoltz · 08-21-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital.James

Youd be lucky to find one for 250k these days. More like 300k

You're way off base with your numbers. An as new car can be had under 180, a higher mileage example will bring 125-135. Check eBay if you don't believe me. With that being said, it is my opinion that this will be a car worth substantial money 20 years from now.

-Adam

Bimmerdriver17 · 08-21-2009, 01:40 PM

wow, FORD GT FTW. However I cant justify 300k for that car.

Your car looks pretty badass as well...NIce!

08-21-2009, 09:16 AM	#23
dlbrooks18 Brigadier General 163 Rep 3,735 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	just wait for Horsepower Freaks to release a turbo upgrade for the N54 .. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...384&highlight=
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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 134 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	There are two of them in my community. Took one for a rip down 535. Wow, what a car, though I have to say that the vehicle squats quite a bit while accelerating. A suprising amount for such a high performance car. Also a major PITA to get in and out of. You forgot to mention the B&W sound system
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wj4 Major General 348 Rep 7,719 Posts Drives: E90 manual 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Burbank, CA iTrader: (8)	That's because an N54 is not a supercar.
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XPO186 Colonel 130 Rep 2,740 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, NY iTrader: (19)	^U speak da troof __________________
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08-21-2009, 12:21 PM	#41
JB991 First Lieutenant 24 Rep 363 Posts Drives: 15 Tacoma, 15 Accord, 16 GT3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spring Texas iTrader: (3)	^^ Actually it was the OP that said the N54 was nothing. As stated in the thread title. The control arms was one of many issues with the car when it came out. Ford tested a car built one way, I think there was a handful or two tested. Then when it came to the actual production of the car trying to fill the demand, Ford and all who were involved building the car went cheap on how the car was produced. It wasn't the same car/parts as what was initially tested on the track. That led to the numerous problems. There is a lot more to the initial productions that came out then what some of you seem to know.
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anthony @ eas 318 Rep 3,635 Posts Drives: R56 Cooper S Join Date: May 2009 Location: 4015 E Leaverton Court, Anahiem, CA 92807 iTrader: (0)	I still think the Ford GT is one of the best looking cars. I'd love to have one.
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Bimmerdriver17 Major 36 Rep 1,361 Posts Drives: F10 535i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (4)	wow, FORD GT FTW. However I cant justify 300k for that car. Your car looks pretty badass as well...NIce! __________________ 2016 F10 535 xDrive Msport Alpine White -Current 2014 F10 535 xDrive SOLD 2009 E90 335i SOLD 2007 E92 6MT SOLD
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