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Then I drove the gas powered cooper S and completely forgot the electric version even existed. It's a wonder what some engine noise, vibration, gear changes etc do for the driving experience. SO much more fun to drive than the EV version was. Cherry on top was my wife really wanted a convertible so we ended up ordering a cooper S convertible.
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Nevertheless, when I used Caddy earlier to make my point about EVs being a little "fun and silly" in many cases, I mentioned Cadillac EVs as the exception to that concept. I didn't insinuate that this applied to all Cadillacs, though it is likely true that most of the Caddy lineup targets the AARP crowd, except a few V models and maybe the Escalade. So, yes, Cadillac EVs target a much older audience than most other EVs, and the Caddy EVs are the antithesis of fun and silly. |
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Few more thoughts. The argument of "EV enthusiasts like quirky and minimalist" is silly. Nobody cares what EV enthusiasts think, at least not in the mainstream automakers. Automakers want to go mainstream with their EVs, and so they need to appeal to regular old people. They don't want to fight at great expense over the EV enthusiast niche and make no money off it.
EVs are (largely) cheap, but not low priced. Low priced is good, cheap is not. Cheap is Teslas being empty inside to save on materials, having terrible QC, and only offerong like 3 colors. When you compare Model Y with Mach E, Mach E is much better built, but doesn't come close to the sales.numbers because it's priced higher, and frankly, for the money it still feels cheap. On the lightning. It's not JUST the screen that kept me away, that was just the deal breaker. It's that at this point Lightning is 2 generations behind f150 in styling. It's that instead of the normal high quality materiala you'd get in a loaded f150, lightning gets much cheaper feeling and looking "eco friendly" materials. Had they just made the light ing a powertrain option, and not a separate model, id probably have one. Almost all my friends with EVa have a secondary family car for road trips. Those that are EV only rent a (gas) car for trips. Nobody has time for charging on long trips. Range anxiety isn't the problem, it's recharge speed. If you could get juiced up (without doing damage to the vehicle battery) from 0-100% in 2-3 minutes, it'd be a non issue. But when you have to charge from like 20-80 and it takes 15-20 minutes... That's a no for most people. |
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Does Caddy even have EVs? They have the new electric Escalade wanna e thing, I don't think that's actually out yet though. But I don't think they have any EVs other than that? |
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We are not the target market apparently, guess the 18 year olds who will have 40-50k for this will understand
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Lol, indeed. I'm sure there's plenty of kids with large enough incomes to want to buy a "silly and cartoon" Mini Cooper that wouldn't rather have something that is a bit more flashy...
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