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12-11-2015, 05:47 PM | #23 | |
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FWIW VAC will install the dipstick bung for you for $50. |
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12-11-2015, 06:25 PM | #25 |
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12-11-2015, 07:00 PM | #26 | |
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I do think that kind of thing is rare though, how many are there out there working fine? Over 99% I bet, mine being one of them. BMW themselves would surely have abandoned the design if that kind of thing was common because it's a massive headache for them as well. But then maybe they're stubborn themselves, they're still sticking runflat tyres on their new cars Transmission and steering are a different case, they affect your enjoyment and feel for the car. Electric dipstick doesn't.... as long as it works, that is. |
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12-12-2015, 07:17 AM | #27 |
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So I'd like to throw in here. First off most people don't understand how to use the e-dipstick and don't understand how it works. Me and numerous other members have researched how the sensor operates and have posted the information on the forum. The oil condition monitoring is not new technology by any stretch. It has been used in industrial manufacturing for decades to track oil quality of various machine tools and other systems that require oil lubricants. Kudos for BMW to bring the technology to its cars.
Having said that, I was a bit of a luddite in 2006 when I realized the N52 didn't have a mechanical dipstick. I first thought, dumbass BMW, and it almost kept me from buying my E90. But I realized that my E30 had an e-dipstick in it along with the mechanical one. In the M20 the oil level sensor always and reliably let me know when the engine was a quart low and the mechanical dipstick backed up that reading, so I figured the technology was pretty straight forward and bought the E90. 9 years and 293,000 miles later living with a non-dipstick engine, I can say I don't miss having a mechanical dipstick. As far as the oil condition sensor goes, I loved that technology too, and followed the CBS OCI, which on my car averaged 17,500 miles... until I discovered BMW programs the oil condition monitoring function to go defunct after 186,000 miles.... Dumbass BMW.
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12-12-2015, 07:39 AM | #28 |
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I want my dipstick too. I've had leaky gaskets and before being able to change them I want to check oil level to ensure I have enough. Gotta wait 5 min for the electronic one to register. Too long. Especially if you're running low while waiting.
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12-12-2015, 07:42 AM | #29 |
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At least have both. What would that cost, $20 more?
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12-12-2015, 06:19 PM | #31 | |
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And if your gasket is leaking so bad that it can go from fine to dangerously low between drives, surely you've left it waaaay too long? My E46 328i has visible oil leakage from gaskets, been like that for years and by the time it triggers a yellow oil light it's well due for an oil change anyway. |
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12-13-2015, 01:27 PM | #32 |
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Dealer never changed air filter because the electronics never told them
I just discovered that the dealer never changed my air filters under the 4 year maintenance period. My service advisor said it was because they never got the electronic alert telling them it was due. The filters were starting to decompose (probably from too much heat). All they had to do was look, like I did, and it was obvious. He said someone must have "erased" the alert.
I've also had excessive oil usage. One week it reads full and the next week my wife is out of town and gets the low oil warning. Yes, I'd appreciate a dipstick. |
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12-13-2015, 02:52 PM | #33 |
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NO way in hell that a electronic dipstick is much more accurate than your eye on an analog dipstick.
Power steering fluid shows the recommended level when cold or hot. Some car manufacturers do the same for engine oil. You can get just as accurate of a measurement in an analog dipstick whether cold or hot. Just get the level right when hot, and compare to where the mark is when cold. Simple. Analog for the modafokan win.
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12-14-2015, 08:02 AM | #34 | |
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12-14-2015, 01:54 PM | #35 |
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I change my oil every 3,500 - 4,000 miles. Always have, always will! (see, that dude earlier was RIGHT! I AM stubborn! Just not old, or not THAT old. Ha!)
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12-14-2015, 02:10 PM | #36 |
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What's a dipstick?
I'm going back to a landline telephone. Don't rely on air connection. Also I'm going to buy a spare tire, inner tubes, halogen headlights and replacing the injectors for a carburetor. Getting rid of the DCT, going manual. Lol. Half the forum will be with me on the last change, right? Wrong if that's my DD and no track. |
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Some things are better off being kept simple rather than up to date with technology for the sake of not over complicating things.
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12-14-2015, 03:32 PM | #38 | |
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I didn't buy a Lexus or Infiniti. I bought a BMW, which is supposed to be a driver's car, the "ultimate driving machine," not the: "ultimate electronic sensors and drivers simplification systems that will do all the work for you so you don't have to actually drive and/or pay attention or do anything at all except text and instagram and snapchat and watch vine videos while you're on the road" machine
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100% agree with the OP. It simply says to me that BMW don't design cars for enthusiasts. They design them for the mainstream buyer who may not even be aware of the purpose for engine oil.
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No, that linked kit is S65-specific, so it would work on E9X M3 and S65 transplants only. We do have our BimmerWorld E8X/E9X Race Oil Pan for E8X and E9X N52- and N54-based cars, however.
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12-15-2015, 08:35 AM | #42 | |
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What are you talking about???? Do you think deleting a dipstick and adding an electronic sensor is rocket science and its OVER complicating things? Have you ever change an AC evaporator or fix the vanos or replace the actuators? Holy crap dude!!!! There is when you start to see complicated stuff. Getting back a dipstick to your car won't make it SIMPLE. Most of the times when BMW engineers do a change like this is because there is a very good reason behind it. If this is too complicated for you, either install the pan suggested on this thread or buy a 68 Chevy!!!! Simple and it has a dipstick. Suggestion: eliminate the tpms, the combox and the throttle actuators. It's over complicating things for you and then you will be a You need to start seeing your car as an M3, not as a standard car. It's suppose to be the ultimate driving machine. |
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12-16-2015, 01:16 PM | #43 | |
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Just an added expense when it does crap out. Excuse me, I forgot that BMW engineers are gods amongst us mere mortals..... Continue with your fine intuition. Enlighten me more oh wise one. BMW engineers HAH. Go explain to yourself first before you respond here. Why does the e9x m3 need its rod bearings replaced at under 100k miles? Even with HARD abused mileage, the rod bearings should not have to be touched until over 80k. That is if the engine was built to tight clearances and specs. BMW ENGINEERING FTMFW
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I'm done here...what waste of time. Discusing about a dipstick!!!!
1. Add one if it makes you happy. 2. Call BMW and complain. Most probably they will add one on the next gen. 3. Start a riot, a movement.... Good luck |
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