Any Ketogenic Dieters or Experts on BP?

[Mywifes335]

Dang, no cakes, cookies or pies?

[longress]

It's really an eye opener when you read about how your body deals with all these processed food chemicals and sugars. It's no wonder people feel like crap all the time with no energy.

And these additives and sugars are in everything! It blows your mind that you can't find much of anything without some form of sugar in it at the store. Which is the hardest part of the whole plan - grocery shopping. It's expensive too. There's no "Whole Foods Grocery" in my town.

It is worth it, you eat good food and your body tells you so because you feel more adequately full and energized.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by longress

It's really an eye opener when you read about how your body deals with all these processed food chemicals and sugars. It's no wonder people feel like crap all the time with no energy.

And these additives and sugars are in everything! It blows your mind that you can't find much of anything without some form of sugar in it at the store. Which is the hardest part of the whole plan - grocery shopping. It's expensive too. There's no "Whole Foods Grocery" in my town.

It is worth it, you eat good food and your body tells you so because you feel more adequately full and energized.

Where do you buy your food?

How about sweets that you can make at home?

[longress]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Where do you buy your food?

How about sweets that you can make at home?

We have a small store that sells local all natural fed, no steroid meat, and fresh fruits and vegetables with no preservatives. For all the other stuff it's just reading the labels at the main grocery stores. After a little bit you know what to pick up because you put the time in and the plan gives you a bunch of ideas for clean food.

No real sweets except for sweet potatoes and natural maple syrup that I can put on pancakes that my gf makes from bananas! So no fake cookies or other deserts but I was just burnt out on all that crap anyway.

They have some pretty cool recipes in the plan and I now prefer the natural sugars and flavors that come from these foods. I'm really enjoying eating good unf*cked with food

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by longress

We have a small store that sells local all natural fed, no steroid meat, and fresh fruits and vegetables with no preservatives. For all the other stuff it's just reading the labels at the main grocery stores. After a little bit you know what to pick up because you put the time in and the plan gives you a bunch of ideas for clean food.

No real sweets except for sweet potatoes and natural maple syrup that I can put on pancakes that my gf makes from bananas! So no fake cookies or other deserts but I was just burnt out on all that crap anyway.

They have some pretty cool recipes in the plan and I now prefer the natural sugars and flavors that come from these foods. I'm really enjoying eating good unf*cked with food

Awesome. The app has been an eye-opener. Has taken 3 days to get carb intake as % of total calorie consumption under 20%!

[Mywifes335]

Where y'all get your recipes?

[antych]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Awesome. The app has been an eye-opener. Has taken 3 days to get carb intake as % of total calorie consumption under 20%!

You have to push it even lower. There can be no half measures with ketosis, one of the books compared it to flying to Hawaii. Getting there half the way lands you in the ocean. That's when you still run on glucose, but there's not enough of it to fully power your brain and other organs. You may feel tired and miserable, something people call "keto flu". You may have to go through few days of it while adapting anyway, but if you don't get the macros right, it will persist and make you give up the diet.

Remember that unlike essential fats and proteins, there's no such thing as essential carbs. Your body will make glucose if needed. You can cut down carbs to pretty much zero to be sure. Once you're adapted and feel the effects, you can introduce some of them back.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by antych

You have to push it even lower. There can be no half measures with ketosis, one of the books compared it to flying to Hawaii. Getting there half the way lands you in the ocean. That's when you still run on glucose, but there's not enough of it to fully power your brain and other organs. You may feel tired and miserable, something people call "keto flu". You may have to go through few days of it while adapting anyway, but if you don't get the macros right, it will persist and make you give up the diet.

Remember that unlike essential fats and proteins, there's no such thing as essential carbs. Your body will make glucose if needed. You can cut down carbs to pretty much zero to be sure. Once you're adapted and feel the effects, you can introduce some of them back.

Milk has been the big killer. How do you supplement/substitute for milk?

Today's a new day, no carbs!

Thanks for the advice guys.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Milk has been the big killer. How do you supplement/substitute for milk?

Today's a new day, no carbs!

Thanks for the advice guys.

Almond milk is an awesome alternative. I use it for everything now. I buy Blue Diamond's brand.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Almond milk is an awesome alternative. I use it for everything now. I buy Blue Diamond's brand.

Awesome! Thanks!

[antych]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Milk has been the big killer. How do you supplement/substitute for milk?

I stopped drinking milk over a decade ago. I figured I'm not a baby cow.

What do you need it for? Coffee?

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Awesome! Thanks!

No prob man!

Originally Posted by antych

I stopped drinking milk over a decade ago. I figured I'm not a baby cow.

What do you need it for? Coffee?

It's still a great alternative to receive calcium supplementation, and is really good with oats.

[antych]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

It's still a great alternative to receive calcium supplementation, and is really good with oats.

You don't need to supplement calcium, just get it from leafy greens.

[UncleWede]

Milk is milk. What is life without milk? Can't even have cheese without milk

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by antych

You don't need to supplement calcium, just get it from leafy greens.

I eat those too. But after a while, it comes down to preference.


No way in hell am I just eating greens alone for a calcium source.


I also take a protein shake that mixes very well with almond milk.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

I eat those too. But after a while, it comes down to preference.


No way in hell am I just eating greens alone for a calcium source.


I also take a protein shake that mixes very well with almond milk.

Hey Paul Mooney, do you have a sample meal plan that you use?

I used to drink a ton of milk but didn't realize it's full of carbs! Good for lifting though.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Hey Paul Mooney, do you have a sample meal plan that you use?

I used to drink a ton of milk but didn't realize it's full of carbs! Good for lifting though.

Well, I'm not a Ketogenic nutritionist, and I eat couscous and brown rice with a lot of my meals, with a high protein concentration (usually 18-20oz protein, 1 cup of couscous/brown rice, and 1 2/3 greens - green beans, spinach, etc.) with my BCAA's and protein for dinner.


Lunch is very simple, greek yogurt (another thing that I know is contrary to the keto), chicken sandwiches on whole wheat, green tea, baked chips, and protein/almond/peanut granola with fruit snacks.


However, I came across this stuff on the BB forums, excellent reading I think you will find helpful; cooking tips, recipes, and background info.

Keto FAQ

Considering Keto?

Keto Power Meals

Keto Supplementation

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

Well, I'm not a Ketogenic nutritionist, and I eat couscous and brown rice with a lot of my meals, with a high protein concentration (usually 18-20oz protein, 1 cup of couscous/brown rice, and 1 2/3 greens - green beans, spinach, etc.) with my BCAA's and protein for dinner.


Lunch is very simple, greek yogurt (another thing that I know is contrary to the keto), chicken sandwiches on whole wheat, green tea, baked chips, and protein/almond/peanut granola with fruit snacks.


However, I came across this stuff on the BB forums, excellent reading I think you will find helpful; cooking tips, recipes, and background info.

Keto FAQ

Considering Keto?

Keto Power Meals

Keto Supplementation

Good stuff. I can't believe I forgot to check out BB!

You eat really clean man. Lifestyle or cutting for summer?

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Good stuff. I can't believe I forgot to check out BB!

You eat really clean man. Lifestyle or cutting for summer?

Yeah man! I actually bookmarked some of those recipes, myself. They are really great, and the benefits are scientifically outlined regarding the changes and effects your body will undergo/endure.


It's crazy too, I've basically built up my macros distribution over the last 2 years to 37-40% proteins, 19-23% fats, and 38-42% carbs. It has really worked well, but I know the macronutrient distribution for keto is a bit more reversed. Still with optimal results also, nonetheless!

EDIT: Crap didn't answer LOL, but it is now a lifestyle change. I'm surprised at how horrible I feel after eating some of the things I ate somewhat regularly even a year ago.

[Mywifes335]

Ok got my macros to: 10% carbs, 55% fat and 35% protein today. Sluggish!

Funky mouth taste today...

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Ok got my macros to: 10% carbs, 55% fat and 35% protein today. Sluggish!

Funky mouth taste today...

Ha! So it begins.

[antych]

How's it going. Did you turn into fat burning beast?