G65 X5 and iX5 BEV will push hard into high luxury + other info

[tturedraider]

BMW is well on the way to completely abandoning the Ultimate Driving Machine. They will have to change their U.S. tagline to the one they’ve used in Europe all these years, Sheer Driving Pleasure, but it probably needs to change to Sheer Riding Pleasure.

[LVBMW]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Yes B&W though not Diamond.

B&W in the iX is the diamond surround system. It is amazing.

[XZLR8]

Originally Posted by David Kunitz

Passenger side screen isn't one of my favourite features

It should come with a recommendation for a good divorce lawyer.

[XZLR8]

Originally Posted by Jd19

Fingers crossed that high luxury equates to similar seats to the current 7 series, full leather interior, and a high end audio system such as the current iX B&W.

The current 7er has the best seats in the game, IMO.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Cross posted from the Future BMW Models Info Thread

G65/G95 X5, iX5, X5M

• In production 8/26-07/33
• X5 model range: X5 40, 40 xDrive, 40d xDrive, 50e xDrive, M60 xDrive, M60e xDrive
• iX5 models: 50 xDrive, 60 xDrive, M70 xDrive
• G65 X5 will push hard into high luxury.
• Expect many top level features currently only found on 7/X7 - from automatic doors to interior details, plus all the UI advancements we've been hearing about recently: Panoramic Vision, Augmented View, AR glasses integration, passenger side screen and "Ceremonial Light Carpet."
• There's a good chance the BEV iX5 will only be introduced in 2027.

Yeah, where is the luxury? Screens and tech =/= Luxury, especially since you can get Chinese cars with the same features, same crap interior quality, and same overstyled exterior for substantially less.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Llarry

I think that leather interiors are slowly going away -- replaced by man-made materials such as Veganza on the 7 series.

So plastic? Imagine paying 100K for a plastic interior - Literally recycled trash.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

BMW is well on the way to completely abandoning the Ultimate Driving Machine. They will have to change their U.S. tagline to the one they’ve used in Europe all these years, Sheer Driving Pleasure, but it probably needs to change to Sheer Riding Pleasure.

It’s true. They do handle well and can be pushed very fast, but there is no communication through the steering or brakes even in the M cars. Very capable, but numb. Probably the best chassis other than Porsche. I picked up the new CLE53 AMG, and the car feels more alive and connected - it’s exciting to drive. I do think BMW has sacrificed a number of driving pleasures for the sake of production and fuel efficiency and market share. It is what it is. I wish they had been able to add back mechanical feel in certain vehicles while allowing others to become plush. The X5 and X7 are the best all around SUVs out there, but they are dialed in without driving pleasure.

[GuyOh]

Im okay if the quality is more on par with the 7er, but i will not be okay if it’s similar to the new x3

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Yeah, where is the luxury? Screens and tech =/= Luxury, especially since you can get Chinese cars with the same features, same crap interior quality, and same overstyled exterior for substantially less.

The anti-Chinese racism is staggering on this forum.

You realize the Chinese are leading the world in many forms of tech, particularly EVs right?

Literally claiming a particular feature can not be luxurious because “Chinese” cars share the same feature. What a joke.

[SoCali E36]

As if shit wasn’t already expensive enough.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by jmack123

The anti-Chinese racism is staggering on this forum.

You realize the Chinese are leading the world in many forms of tech, particularly EVs right?

Literally claiming a particular feature can not be luxurious because “Chinese” cars share the same feature. What a joke.

They lead only because everything they have is stolen from the rest of the world. The price we all paid for having things made by them.

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

They lead only because everything they have is stolen from the rest of the world. The price we all paid for having things made by them.

I guess you forgot the last century when we also outsourced 90% of our manufacturing to them.

Might’ve contributed to them being so good at manufacturing ay?

Or did you miss the part where most of batteries being produced for EVs are being produced by companies who got started making batteries for our iPhones?

[dima_pa]

Originally Posted by Jd19

B&W in the iX has been titled the best audio system in any vehicle by multiple reviewers.

Not even close to mark levinson in Lexus

[dima_pa]

Originally Posted by Cruise'n

Must say 12 months on and 15000km the vegan leather still looks like new and not at all baggy and saggy like the leather always goes. Got to say I like it eventually, but honestly didn't want it, price went up and leather disappears.... really, but glad now.
Market dependent as was a cost option on my build for all the leather options. Why do I get leather dash and doors though still..?

I think that the cashmere fabric material like in 7 series would be nice, btw I’m not sure that US market has this option on 7 series, since our consumers associate fabric with poor specs and we are all billionaires and it’s against our status and most people are messy AF, so it’s hard to clean. But i can agree that it would be impractical in family hauler, but maybe just in the front seats?¿

[psuibmw]

ynguldyn need to hear news about upcoming G66 X6?

[darylp310]

Originally Posted by dima_pa

Not even close to mark levinson in Lexus

You should give it a listen in the iX if you can. Since it’s a bespoke-platform EV with no transmission tunnel and no engine noise, they’ve actually built the speakers into the perfect places to engulf you. I’m a part time music producer and use the iX for studio reference before mastering. It’s impossibly good at reproducing all frequencies as expected.

I’m a little worried that since the iX5 will share a platform with the ICE X5 they won’t be able do some of the iX magic tricks with the audio system! 😱😢😀

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by jmack123

The anti-Chinese racism is staggering on this forum.

You realize the Chinese are leading the world in many forms of tech, particularly EVs right?

Literally claiming a particular feature can not be luxurious because “Chinese” cars share the same feature. What a joke.

You literally have no clue what you the fuck you are talking about....

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by jmack123

The anti-Chinese racism is staggering on this forum.

You realize the Chinese are leading the world in many forms of tech, particularly EVs right?

Literally claiming a particular feature can not be luxurious because “Chinese” cars share the same feature. What a joke.

Nothing I said was racist, nor did I put "Chinese" in quotes. I said tech in itself is NOT luxury, and pointed to low cost Chinese cars that have the same features, and I stand by that statement.

This car will be over priced, low quality and ugly like all modern BMWs.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by jmack123

I guess you forgot the last century when we also outsourced 90% of our manufacturing to them.

Might’ve contributed to them being so good at manufacturing ay?

Or did you miss the part where most of batteries being produced for EVs are being produced by companies who got started making batteries for our iPhones?

That’s literally what I said.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

This car will be over priced, low quality and ugly like all modern BMWs.

Our X7 and iX are high quality. What’s your definition or standard for quality?

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Nothing I said was racist, nor did I put "Chinese" in quotes. I said tech in itself is NOT luxury, and pointed to low cost Chinese cars that have the same features, and I stand by that statement.

This car will be over priced, low quality and ugly like all modern BMWs.

You pointed to “low cost” Chinese cars? Maybe you can point me to the point in your post where it said “low cost” and didn’t mention Chinese cars generally.

Or do you think all Chinese cars are inherently low cost?

By the way, tech in and of itself is not luxury, but is certainly a luxury feature.

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by mjr24

You literally have no clue what you the fuck you are talking about....

Great response.

Maybe since you know so much you can enlighten us. Or is this basic nonsense all you can respond with?