F1 2023: Saudi Arabian GP - Jeddah (Mar 19)

M5Rick · 03-10-2023, 05:07 AM

Hardly worth betting in the bookies on Max, you'll only get your stake back and a bag of nuts at 1/2 now.
Interestingly Alonso is at 8/1 and Leclerc at 9/1 so Chas under pressure.

TTM0TION · 03-10-2023, 09:06 AM

I did ALO, LEC, and RUS after testing. The odds they were at makes it fun but not looking likely.

NYG · 03-10-2023, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Definitely a scapegoat situation

Ferrari should accept no one outsmarts Adrian Newey. Especially a bunch of nudnik spaghetti eaters. Be like Aston Martin, copy Red Bull aerodynamics to the best of your abilities. Shouldn't be hard with all the show and tell that happens now.

I'm seeing rumors that he's going to McLaren. Any confirmations?

TTM0TION · 03-10-2023, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

I'm seeing rumors that he's going to McLaren. Any confirmations?

I saw it so much I just assumed it was confirmed. Interesting hire.

On Aston, was it just Fallows they got or did they take a bunch of other Red Bull people?

irunalot · 03-10-2023, 09:48 AM

1 Ver
2 Per
3 Lec
4 Ham
5 Alo

No one can beat RB this year, the championship is over. They took at winning design and refined way beyond anything else on the grid. Everyone else is still trying to figure out their car. Newey has too much experience with ground effect cars and he’s brilliant.

Merc just brought back James Allison, he’s not Newey but also a brilliant designer. They have some serious work to do but I can see them improving.

Ferrari is still recovering from the Harry Potter era, and with their politics and unrealistic expectations will melt under pressure until the culture changes.

Aston might be a flash in the pan, I want to see a few results before I jump on the bandwagon. Although Alonso has taken the team up a notch.

TTM0TION · 03-10-2023, 09:54 AM

So the MB era is over and we have a Red Bull one. The Formula 1 cycle continues. I don't mind it. RB beating Mclaren win percentage would be cool with 23 races. The mid field battles will be awesome.

Still very excited for this season.

HeelToeShift · 03-10-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TTM0TION

So the MB era is over and we have a Red Bull one. The Formula 1 cycle continues. I don't mind it. RB beating Red Bulls win percentage would be cool with 23 races. The mid field battles will be awesome.

Still very excited for this season.

This. Max may be the best pure talent ever to sit in an F1 and want to see record after record go to his name.

M5Rick · 03-10-2023, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TTM0TION

I did ALO, LEC, and RUS after testing. The odds they were at makes it fun but not looking likely.

Why not and just say 5 dollars on it makes it really fun.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-10-2023, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

I'm seeing rumors that he's going to McLaren. Any confirmations?

Negative .
McLaren is negotiating with Red Bull to get the HONDA PU under the hood in the 2024 season .

Currently , McLaren really s@cks ....

///M Power-Belgium · 03-10-2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

Newey is the GOAT, what a mind.

I'm just praying this is a safe race and everyone gets out OK, this track is stupid dangerous.

Spot on !
I couldn't agree more

Yesterday I said in my post : The Jeddah track is like a rat trap , it actually can't meet the FIA security measures => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=21

I'm not religious , but I'll try to pray that all drivers survive this track !

M5Rick · 03-10-2023, 11:29 AM

Yuki Tsunoda is at 5000/1 to win in the bookies, any takers?

TTM0TION · 03-10-2023, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Why not and just say 5 dollars on it makes it really fun.

Totally agree, threw $10 at each.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-10-2023, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Definitely a scapegoat situation

Ferrari should accept no one outsmarts Adrian Newey. Especially a bunch of nudnik spaghetti eaters. Be like Aston Martin, copy Red Bull aerodynamics to the best of your abilities. Shouldn't be hard with all the show and tell that happens now.

Killed by Death

My man vs Your man !

MAX vs Charlie at Bahrain

This is really interesting !

Artemis · 03-10-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyC

I'm just praying this is a safe race and everyone gets out OK, this track is stupid dangerous.

Spot on !
I couldn't agree more

Yesterday I said in my post : The Jeddah track is like a rat trap , it actually can't meet the FIA security measures => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=21

I'm not religious , but I'll try to pray that all drivers survive this track !

As also said last year, I subscribe to the view of many that this circuit does not belong on the F1 race calendar. It's way too dangerous for the drivers. Should an accident happen injuring or killing a driver, everyone will agree that it was irresponsible of FIA to include this circuit. Last year Verstappen made no secret of that.

"Max Verstappen slams ‘dangerous’ Saudi Arabia track after horror Mick Schumacher crash (March 27, 2022):
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formu...erous-26567309

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

•The World Champion also critical of dangerous street circuit design in Jeddah !

I can not believe the new Jeddah circuit was approved by the 2021 FIA safety regulations !
The Jeddah street circuit has several blind topspeed corners surrounded by walls !
This while Spa-Francorchamps had to invest '80 million Euro's to make the track wider with run-offs to make it safer ..

I really hope that Jeddah will be canceled by the FIA in 2023 !

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

More from MAX about the Jeddah circuit :

GuidoK · 03-10-2023, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

This is really interesting !

Indeed a very interesting video.
It looks a bit that RB got stronger at the points where Ferrari was stronger last year.
And it looks like Ferrari focussed on getting more top speed the RB had last year.
Still the RB is significantly faster.
Of course how much downforce the cars have is also a matter of choice.
Baku will show if the RB's really lost on top speed compared to Ferrari.

atopa2002 · 03-11-2023, 09:47 AM

My prediction for this podium

1. Per
2. Lec
3. Alo

///M Power-Belgium · 03-11-2023, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by atopa2002

My prediction for this podium

1. Per
2. Lec
3. Alo

Then MAX must be very ill !

GuidoK · 03-11-2023, 10:25 AM

Max still can get mechanical problems or being rammed of track. That can happen to anyone sadly.

But on pure performance and skills it's unlikely Max doesn't make the podium

Artemis · 03-11-2023, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by atopa2002

My prediction for this podium

1. Per
2. Lec
3. Alo

Verstappen got stuck at the airport.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-11-2023, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Indeed a very interesting video.
It looks a bit that RB got stronger at the points where Ferrari was stronger last year.
And it looks like Ferrari focussed on getting more top speed the RB had last year.
Still the RB is significantly faster.
Of course how much downforce the cars have is also a matter of choice.
Baku will show if the RB's really lost on top speed compared to Ferrari.

In other words : The 2023 RB19 is extremely well balanced and very fast in the corners of the track .

The excellent balance gives an advantage in reduced tire wear .
And as usual , MAX won't take prisoners ...

///M Power-Belgium · 03-11-2023, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Verstappen got stuck at the airport.

OMG !!!

I just LMFAO !!!

Thank you my friend for making my day

///M Power-Belgium · 03-11-2023, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Max still can get mechanical problems or being rammed of track. That can happen to anyone sadly.

But on pure performance and skills it's unlikely Max doesn't make the podium

Yeah . Most people seem to forget this very quickly.. As you can see ..

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M5Rick General 68842 Rep 22,124 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Hardly worth betting in the bookies on Max, you'll only get your stake back and a bag of nuts at 1/2 now. Interestingly Alonso is at 8/1 and Leclerc at 9/1 so Chas under pressure.
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TTM0TION First Lieutenant 427 Rep 307 Posts Drives: 2018 Grigio Telesto ZCP Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: LI, New York iTrader: (0)	I did ALO, LEC, and RUS after testing. The odds they were at makes it fun but not looking likely. __________________ Brandon
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irunalot Captain 1537 Rep 823 Posts Drives: Porsche Carrera S Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	1 Ver 2 Per 3 Lec 4 Ham 5 Alo No one can beat RB this year, the championship is over. They took at winning design and refined way beyond anything else on the grid. Everyone else is still trying to figure out their car. Newey has too much experience with ground effect cars and he’s brilliant. Merc just brought back James Allison, he’s not Newey but also a brilliant designer. They have some serious work to do but I can see them improving. Ferrari is still recovering from the Harry Potter era, and with their politics and unrealistic expectations will melt under pressure until the culture changes. Aston might be a flash in the pan, I want to see a few results before I jump on the bandwagon. Although Alonso has taken the team up a notch.
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TTM0TION First Lieutenant 427 Rep 307 Posts Drives: 2018 Grigio Telesto ZCP Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: LI, New York iTrader: (0)	So the MB era is over and we have a Red Bull one. The Formula 1 cycle continues. I don't mind it. RB beating Mclaren win percentage would be cool with 23 races. The mid field battles will be awesome. Still very excited for this season. __________________ Brandon Last edited by TTM0TION; 03-10-2023 at 12:25 PM..
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M5Rick General 68842 Rep 22,124 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Yuki Tsunoda is at 5000/1 to win in the bookies, any takers?
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