Gratuities

[dreamingat30fps]

Get rid of the whole system it's stupid. Pay them a normal wage, if they suck fire them and get someone who doesn't suck. Why is this so difficult? It's the way EVERY other job works.

[TiMSport]

Many countries don't even have the custom of tipping for restaurants. I actually like it that way. Just pay up front in the price of the food and service.

[hubbahubba]

You know when you go to a restaurant, and the server is on point? They can explain dishes, provide rec's, maybe even brighten your day with a treat of some sort? If you get rid of tipping, you get rid of that. Those people are pro's, no different than any of us in their profession. They earn their tips, whether you see what they may be dealing with in the back or not. Maybe you'd rather have some minimum wage lacky? Or maybe you'd prefer to have the restaurant absorb that cost? Instant 20% mark up. Maybe you wouldn't complain, but others would, and it would cost the restaurant customers and revenue. It's a no win for either restaurant or customer to get rid of tipping.

[TiMSport]

Yeah but somehow other countries have been doing just fine since the beginning of time.

[hubbahubba]

Wasn't it you thought restaurants should also leave extra room between the seats? Buddy, don't ever start a restaurant, you'd go broke!

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by hubbahubba

Wasn't it you thought restaurants should also leave extra room between the seats? Buddy, don't ever start a restaurant, you'd go broke!

No, that was someone else but I remember that comment though. LOL. Forgot who it was.

[nazali]

I never tip for take out, I asked my OH this, this being a different country , she said, no, don't tip for takeout, and most places bypass the tip option

Originally Posted by Tyga11

I don't really stay at fancy hotels so no idea about that but for restaurants I always leave 20%. If the service sucks I leave 15%. If the service is beyond suck I'll leave 5-10% I guess.

The one that always gets me is tipping for take out. I've been tipping for takeout recently but still on the fence

[nazali]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Get rid of the whole system it's stupid. Pay them a normal wage, if they suck fire them and get someone who doesn't suck. Why is this so difficult? It's the way EVERY other job works.

^^^^ best entire reply to this thread EVER, could you imagine I don't know a nurse maybe, who sucks at her job, can't give meds, so she just get's minimal and no extras, or a nurse who does the job perfectly but then has to share her tips with other workers.

It's total garbage

[nazali]

Many years ago I was in Australia, and the cab guy actually REFUSED a tip, he said, we don't do that here, I know your from the UK, but we dont, just pay whats on the meter. LOL so I did

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Many countries don't even have the custom of tipping for restaurants. I actually like it that way. Just pay up front in the price of the food and service.

[nazali]

just for the record, it's 10:51 and I'm outta my skull, having problems even focusing my eyes, had so many drinks here, then went to moxies and the service sucked, so I came back for a night cup, BOY did these guy's look after me, gave me extras, gave me some treats, even gave me a coke to go to my room with.

I had a irish coffee and a nice dessert, Ritz totally rocks.

Shit not even sure I can make it to my bed from the desk I'm sitting at LOL
I had 3 cocktails here, then another at moxies and a cheesburger but the service was MEH

the dude loaded my irish, jemsons and baileys, and he gave me some cherries soaked in some concotion

I'm not falling down drunk, but just very very very..... managed to get a late checkout, 2pm, so I can use the pool one last time and have a breakfast.

Then back to the grind and all the crap at home, fuq, I'm wondering even if I want to go home. God bless my BMW, love driving that thing.

Tommorow top is going down and cruise home.

I can't g'tee I wont post anything stupid, if I do... just ignore it

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeee

[nazali]

ok, here's a joke...

Captain Picard goes into a bar and orders a whiskey and soda,
bar man says anything else I can get you
Picard reply no, "make it so"

[nazali]

I was going to tell a time-traveling joke, but you didn't like it.

[///d]

Maybe someone can chime in on this because I don't fully understand it, but can you claim your tips as income when applying for loans or mortgages and such? I thought I heard that you cant, and if that's true you'd think more people would want to be rid of the tipping system and instead pay normal wages.

An old room mate of mine was a bartender, and when she left bartending and went to work at an insurance company it was a complete shock to her not having the ability to get cash every night and instead had to budget her spending between paychecks. It took her a long time to get one track because she never had to learn how to budget.

[Esteban]

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[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by hubbahubba

You know when you go to a restaurant, and the server is on point? They can explain dishes, provide rec's, maybe even brighten your day with a treat of some sort? If you get rid of tipping, you get rid of that. Those people are pro's, no different than any of us in their profession. They earn their tips, whether you see what they may be dealing with in the back or not. Maybe you'd rather have some minimum wage lacky? Or maybe you'd prefer to have the restaurant absorb that cost? Instant 20% mark up. Maybe you wouldn't complain, but others would, and it would cost the restaurant customers and revenue. It's a no win for either restaurant or customer to get rid of tipping.

Why? We ALREADY pay the 20% the only difference is wether they tell you up front by charging 20% more or hide it in the tip. And if people in the area aren't tipping they make it mandatory like in Miami Beach, so it's really just a hidden fee. They have basically managed to offload a large portion of their payroll to the customer.

If it was such a great system everyone would get paid in tips. I have to deal with stupid customers everyday... do I get tipped for not calling them an idiot and hanging up? No. I get paid a decent salary and if I wish to continue being paid I have to continue providing good service to customers regardless of if I get a tip.

[nazali]

an interesting thought,
AUTO-TIP is on in-room service ONLY,
when I pay in the bar, there is NO auto-tip,

it feels a bit scammy to me now

[rebekahb]

This is a little different of a question. If you get a massage or a hair cut and the person who does your service owns the place, what percent do you tip?

The lady who does my hair owns her own salon. She's been my friend for years so I asked her. She told me that most people tip too much since she is the owner. If just feels weird to leave less than 20%.

[hubbahubba]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Why? We ALREADY pay the 20% the only difference is wether they tell you up front by charging 20% more or hide it in the tip. And if people in the area aren't tipping they make it mandatory like in Miami Beach, so it's really just a hidden fee. They have basically managed to offload a large portion of their payroll to the customer.

If it was such a great system everyone would get paid in tips. I have to deal with stupid customers everyday... do I get tipped for not calling them an idiot and hanging up? No. I get paid a decent salary and if I wish to continue being paid I have to continue providing good service to customers regardless of if I get a tip.

If the tip is included, sure, why would you pay extra? Unless they went above and beyond, I wouldn't either.

You get paid well enough to not call your customers an idiot because the price of that 5 star service is obviously built in to your salary. Your company has absorbed that and passed it on to your idiot customers. In a restaurant, that's not how it is set up, and if you wanted to do that, as I said above, get ready for an instant 20% mark up. Even so, many servers who are the best of the best regularly make above 20%, and the resulting pay cut would drive them to another profession.

Maybe you don't frequent the same places enough to know what consistant and good tipping do for your level of service, but I don't want to give that up. And it would 100% go away if tipping went away.

[hubbahubba]

[hubbahubba]

Or is it this one?

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Why? We ALREADY pay the 20% the only difference is wether they tell you up front by charging 20% more or hide it in the tip. And if people in the area aren't tipping they make it mandatory like in Miami Beach, so it's really just a hidden fee. They have basically managed to offload a large portion of their payroll to the customer.

If it was such a great system everyone would get paid in tips. I have to deal with stupid customers everyday... do I get tipped for not calling them an idiot and hanging up? No. I get paid a decent salary and if I wish to continue being paid I have to continue providing good service to customers regardless of if I get a tip.

Do you get a bonus? That is your tip. Its just coming to you through your employer paid for by your customers, instead of directly from your customers.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by hubbahubba

Or is it this one?

This one always gets me when i see people with a coupon. When i have a discount or a coupon, i always tip off the original total, and they always tip off the new total. The server didnt do less because you have a coupon, so why would you pay less in tip?