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Also my 16 228xi vert has a much better RV than 17 and payments are $150 less.[/QUOTE] Today's incentives are within $10 per month of 2015. $10 BETTER per month than 2016. Combined with loyalty rebates on 3 and 4, the payment in 2017 is $10 better than 2015. Because your dealer won't give you the same deal as your 2016 doesn't mean that deals can't be made. Again, a "deal" is made up of BMW's rates, residuals, incentives PLUS dealer contribution. Anyone who would like specific value propositions on particular models taking into account packages and options, is free to email me. We can dissect them together. (Correct, freak cases like a Z4 at 7x% won't be happening again anytime soon.) |
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I read an article survey that the 3-series is the car that most buyers of the new Tesla Model 3 are replacing it with. Honestly this whole marketing to the mainstream adventure is just not going well with BMW.
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Without a doubt Tesla's making a dent into BMWs sales. No denying that. Those 600k pre-orders for the Model 3 is unprecedented.
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I hope you're right about this although I believe BMW is making every variant of every model possible!
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This has been a long time coming.
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08-01-2017, 02:26 PM | #29 | |
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I went to UDE this year and no $1,000 credit. I have not seen any loyalty for 3/4series lately. The corporate discount is discontinued for now. BTW August residuals for 2018 3series 10k miles is 58%. That is crazy! 340i will be $7-800/month |
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Comparing 3 Series with the model 3 from Tesla is the largest nonsense ever.
But this is happening in US so it's not a really big surprise. High quality with low costs is not possible. |
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08-01-2017, 02:32 PM | #31 | |
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There is 3/4 loyalty. $750. There is X3 loyalty. $1500 Corporate Fleet is still around. I am sorry that you have been mislead. Did you talk with your local dealer? |
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08-01-2017, 02:33 PM | #32 | |
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Because your dealer won't give you the same deal as your 2016 doesn't mean that deals can't be made. Again, a "deal" is made up of BMW's rates, residuals, incentives PLUS dealer contribution. Anyone who would like specific value propositions on particular models taking into account packages and options, is free to email me. We can dissect them together. (Correct, freak cases like a Z4 at 7x% won't be happening again anytime soon.)[/QUOTE] No need to be ignorant. Have you shopped around on a 16 vs 17? I shopped nationwide and even picked up my 2 series in Maryland. The same dealer I got a killer deal(I got less than invoice) from couldn't even touch 2017 model rates. |
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2018s won't hit dealers until next month. (Maybe 10 this month on the East coast.) Why incentivize a car that doesn't exist? If you want a 2018, expect to pay more money. There are still people who want a 2018 and are going to order them and pay all the money.
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I walked away from an X5 40e because of the lease rates in July.
Bought a Porsche Macan instead and even got a nice discount on top of it. Hopefully BMW does something soon to change this as I'm sure I'm not the only one jumping ship. |
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How do you know this?
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I would never need to go to a gas station, i would start every morning with a fully charged car. I am willing to spend for a dual motor Model 3, i bet that one is going to be kick ass. But lets see, BMW its your game to lose, show me something compelling to buy! I don't care if its electric or just ICE, but your line up right now SOOO BORING. |
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The i division is a complete disaster for BMW.
The F30 has been the worst 3-series of all time and the competition has caught up and even surpassed it. When the E90 was 6 yrs old it was still the best in class without a doubt. The F30, on the other hand, is a dead man walking after 6 yrs. Save for tech, BMW did not push the bar forward in any area for the F30. The E90 was 10x more fun to drive and had nicer interior materials and a very similar interior design. There is no reason to consider an F30. |
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Just a comment on this. Corp fleet hasn't been discontinued, just reduced by quite a bit. http://www.bmwgroupfleet.com/ Both the purchase and lease discounts for the 3/4 series have been reduced by $1000. And I believe you no longer get the MF reduction when leasing as well.
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Been looking at the 4er lately. Curious to know what disappoints you with the 435i?
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