Very minor hit and run - Video footage captured - Need some guidance

[Gossypiboma]

You filed a claim and a police report. There is nothing else to do and I highly doubt there will be any pursuit by the police as its simply not a priority.

[MattEcho]

At least she's safely wearing her mask. Gotta give her that. She may be damaging property, but think of the lives she saving.

[dscabra]

Send the video to the local news stations and ask them to air it. I'm sure the woman will get some unwanted attention from that, even if only from her friends.

[Marmugmotleocay]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

F'ing classic. Thanks for the laugh.

For all the other folks pushing for a DV claim, I'd love to hear how many of you have actually been successful in such a pursuit. I got rear ended by a flatbed truck hauling cement blocks. Shoved me into the car in front. Front and rear bumpers replaced, bumper support bar in the rear replaced. No airbag deployment. I went after the insurance company for DV. They kicked it to their DV specialist who, shockingly, determined there was no DV. They basically said I was free to get a lawyer and sue them if I disagreed. I then went to an independent assessor that the body shop recommended. He reviewed the repair and said "Look, I'll push the issue for you with the insurance company. In my opinion, you have between $5k and $7k in diminished value. It'll cost you $500 for my time to pursue it. However, I want to warn you that the likelihood you prevail is low. Most DV claims are based on previously proven court cases that demonstrate that once stretched, pulled, ripped metal is banged and bent back into shape it may look undamaged but structurally it's weaker and no longer as good as OEM. Because 100% of your damage was corrected by unbolting parts and bolting OEM parts back on, the only lasting damage you have endured is based on the stigma of the car being hit. Those claims can be won but generally it's for things like an all-original, low mileage, classic or antique car."

So basically, I dont think the OP has a chance with winning a DV claim as it looks like they can just slap a new bumper on, paint, and be done.

Rahul718 Sounds like your insurance caught up with hers so at least you arent paying the deductible. If nothing else you can sleep at night knowing her rates have gone up. I would also be hounding the shit out of the cops to open a hit and run case. My wife got hit and run on the freeway. Punched a hole in her rear bumper big enough to put a watermellon through. The person just drove off. People like this need to be held accountable for their actions. it's the only way they learn. Dont drop this. File the report. She needs this on her record!

I will be receiving a $4500 Diminished Value check. My 2020 X3M40 with 4671 miles was hit while parked by a snowplow. The repairs were $23000 with car rental. I was originally offered $2650 until I submitted an appraisal from a BMW dealer showing what my car was worth before and after the accident. They then offered $4000 but I managed another $500 and they agreed.

[MikeP335i]

It's never a positive to have an accident recorded on your car as far as the value. I found this out when a girl hit an run my son's car in the school parking lot, on camera. At least in Virginia, charging hit and run is up to the police. When they reviewed the film and asked her if she did it, it was within a 24 hr grace period to report the accident. This was satisfied when she admitted to side swiping the car. I would have not pursued the hit and run myself, but my boy was upset. He knew her and she didn't self report. So he had a lot of questions for the officer and was informed how it works in VA.

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by Marmugmotleocay

I will be receiving a $4500 Diminished Value check. My 2020 X3M40 with 4671 miles was hit while parked by a snowplow. The repairs were $23000 with car rental. I was originally offered $2650 until I submitted an appraisal from a BMW dealer showing what my car was worth before and after the accident. They then offered $4000 but I managed another $500 and they agreed.

Going to go out on a limb and say that with $23k in damage, you had some repairs that exceeded simply bolting on replacement parts. Yes?

[GBM3NJ]

Damn that sucks. pisses me off at how awful other drivers are and their blatant disregard for others property. That space was massive, I could parallel park my box truck from work there with room to spare.

[M5Rick]

First thoughts are that woman consumed alcohol before driving which explains the poor parking manoeuvre and the subsequent drive off in case cops came across it.

[Rahul718]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Pathetic, that's about the most clear evidence you could ever have that she knew exactly what she had done and decided against doing the right thing. Judging by her obesity, making incorrect decisions appears to be common for her.

If it were me, I'd go after her as much as the police would allow. They might shrug and tell you it's not worth it, but I'd certainly go out of my way to pay this bitch back so see what they have to say.

Also since it's a gorgeous F82, the car's honor must be protected at all costs. If this were a G82, I'd just let it go as the damage might be seen as an improvement.

LOL @ G80. Spoke to the police over the weekend. In short they were very unmotivated to do anything and basically gave me a civilian report to fill out and mail to the state DMV. In a very nice way he told me not to waste my tome. IMO the extent of the damage should not be a motivating factor - this idiot broke the law so they should go after her. Maybe in an ideal world huh?

Originally Posted by DocL

Being that it wasn't much damage, I'd let it go. However this bitch needs to learn that she needs to be held accountable for her behavior, so I'd file and pursue a hit and run charge with the police. This type of person always blames other people and probably gives her children participation awards.

Make sure you save all the pictures and receipt for the work done. If and when you go to sell the car it will help dismiss any doubt as to how bad the damage was. This is going to be recorded on Carfax and you should file a diminished value claim with her insurance also.

Good luck.

Yep... took all pics and I have the estimate. It only came out to $1600 in damages. Bumper respray and wheel refinish. I’ll have all those documents with me. Police are not motivated to help out... hopefully this will happen to her one day. I cant do much more here except be happy that her premiums will go up.

Originally Posted by grocerylist

Definitely pursue a diminished value claim at the least.

In the process at the moment

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I’ve been involved in a more significant hit and run - lots of damage and lucky I wasn’t hurt, so I am biased against assholes like this one. Idiotic not to stop and at least leave a note, particularly since she is insured. I would definitely pursue DV claim and hit and run report with police. I’d also follow up with police to see what, if anything, they are doing with the report even if it required a time investment. IMO, her license should be suspended and her insurance should skyrocket, but like I said, I’m biased against assholes like this one.

Agree with everyone said here. The damage isn’t the issue, it’s the principle. If she tried to do the right thing I probably would have let her go and tried to buff this out myself and if not I’d probably just ask for a few hundred to have the bumper resprayed. But again someone like her would probably balk at the idea
of asking for $400 for a respray.

Originally Posted by tcphoto

She tried to pull into a spot that’s intended to parallel park, is a fire hydrant, scrapped your bumper in front of a witness then drove off. What part of that is not unethical, illegal and should be ignored? I would pursue it with the Police or Small Claims Court for as much as she obviously spends on fast food. Besides, the sight of her in those yoga pants is offensive enough to warrant an arrest warrant for indecent exposure.

Haha... see above replies. I can go to civil court but for what? Insurance is covering everything... this is basically a lose/lose situation

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Maybe it’s me but I always park as close to the curb as humanly possible as I’ve notice you were (and other vehicles) a good foot or more from the curb. Still, doesn’t give her a free pass. I see two sides here. As everyone on this forum is an auto enthusiast who would rather get punched in the face than have someone hitting our vehicles, I say pursue for the hit/run charge. However, since the damage is very minimal, probably going overboard.

If it were me? She deserves the guillotine.

Yea I could have parked closer but there was a ton of broken glass by the curb, hence the distance.

Originally Posted by rwheels

Take it to this thread; "The official "Ask a cop/deputy anything!" Sedan and others will chime in with very fair and honest answers. I agree with others that, at minimum, she should be reported to your DMV. That was literal hit and run.

See above. NYPD basically said good luck and sent me on my way.

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

Find out where she lives in pour sugar in her gas tank.

By the looks of her I don’t think she has a sugar problem

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

F'ing classic. Thanks for the laugh.

For all the other folks pushing for a DV claim, I'd love to hear how many of you have actually been successful in such a pursuit. I got rear ended by a flatbed truck hauling cement blocks. Shoved me into the car in front. Front and rear bumpers replaced, bumper support bar in the rear replaced. No airbag deployment. I went after the insurance company for DV. They kicked it to their DV specialist who, shockingly, determined there was no DV. They basically said I was free to get a lawyer and sue them if I disagreed. I then went to an independent assessor that the body shop recommended. He reviewed the repair and said "Look, I'll push the issue for you with the insurance company. In my opinion, you have between $5k and $7k in diminished value. It'll cost you $500 for my time to pursue it. However, I want to warn you that the likelihood you prevail is low. Most DV claims are based on previously proven court cases that demonstrate that once stretched, pulled, ripped metal is banged and bent back into shape it may look undamaged but structurally it's weaker and no longer as good as OEM. Because 100% of your damage was corrected by unbolting parts and bolting OEM parts back on, the only lasting damage you have endured is based on the stigma of the car being hit. Those claims can be won but generally it's for things like an all-original, low mileage, classic or antique car."

So basically, I dont think the OP has a chance with winning a DV claim as it looks like they can just slap a new bumper on, paint, and be done.

Rahul718 Sounds like your insurance caught up with hers so at least you arent paying the deductible. If nothing else you can sleep at night knowing her rates have gone up. I would also be hounding the shit out of the cops to open a hit and run case. My wife got hit and run on the freeway. Punched a hole in her rear bumper big enough to put a watermellon through. The person just drove off. People like this need to be held accountable for their actions. it's the only way they learn. Dont drop this. File the report. She needs this on her record!

Trying not to drop it but I don’t think I’ll have much luck pursing anything further. I agree she needs to learn but if you see my replies above it’s not gonna happen via the police. I just need to trust that karma will come into play.

Originally Posted by leopard print

To me, it doesn’t matter what car she hit. Ferrari, F82, shit box worth $500. I would still pursue the hit and run or whatever the law would allow if it’s not a huge burden for you to do so. People like her need to be taught a lesson to respect other people’s property. If not, I can see her doing it over and over again and teaching her children the same thing. Then the cycle of shitty people continues.

100% agreed. It’s all principle here.

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Not an option in NY State AFAIK, where the OP resides.

Since the defendant's insurance paid, there is no civil court recourse unless you had to pay a deductible. Criminal charges, on the other hand, assuming that NYPD will divert their manpower away from bigger crimes.

Disclaimer, IANAL, and didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night.....

You’re probably correct judging by how the process is playing out right now.

Originally Posted by bimmer pleaser V2

I don't think merely filing a police report blemishes your car history but the accident history that will definitely be recorded on your Carfax if you report the accident to insurance companies. With high-end sports cars like this the diminished value due to accident is enormous no matter how minor the accident, and you can never recoup the real diminished value from insurance.

Edit: wait, you did let the insurance company know, I personally would not have done it.

I was debating on it but the estimate came out to $1600 and no way in hell I was going to let that slide. Plus, you never really know what else could have been damaged and I didn’t want to risk it with this car. I’d rather it be done the right way and I’m sure based on the video, pics and estimate that any future buyer won’t really be deterred.

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Let your insurance handle all the paperwork, that is part of what you are paying them to do for you. You have clear evidence and a plate, so let them fight it out for you.

It's tough, I know. The guy who hit my wife (963 original miles) with a lunch truck doesn't seem to have a valid business license, the insurance provided on scene was for business, but not vehicles. When I took that info to the authorities after the report was done, showed them that they openly lied, he shrugged it off and said people lie all the time, it's now a civil matter.

Unfortunately, it seems law enforcement has more serious concerns right now.

Yep. Not getting anywhere with the police at the moment. No real surprise. Insurance covered 100% of it and I can just be thankful that her premiums will go up at this point. It seems like if no one died in the accident then the police are not motivated to do much.

Originally Posted by premier3is

Pursue it, bitch needs to realize she was caught. I'd do it just for that reason alone. Teach the bitch a lesson to not hit a car and run off. Pathetic cunt.

My sentiments exactly. It’s all principle for me but aside from insurance covering it, it’s not looking like much will happen from a legal POV.

Originally Posted by Patton250

Man, some of you people are brutal. I thought TRF had some angry peeps but…………. Yikes

Wouldn’t you be angry too?

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

Minimal damage? She scraped the shite outta your side. Get at that cow.

Trying to man.

Originally Posted by Gossypiboma

You filed a claim and a police report. There is nothing else to do and I highly doubt there will be any pursuit by the police as its simply not a priority.

This is how it’s playing out. Insurance is doing their thing and that’s about the only recourse I have.

Originally Posted by dscabra

Send the video to the local news stations and ask them to air it. I'm sure the woman will get some unwanted attention from that, even if only from her friends.

As much as I’d love to wouldn’t this count as defamation?

Originally Posted by Marmugmotleocay

I will be receiving a $4500 Diminished Value check. My 2020 X3M40 with 4671 miles was hit while parked by a snowplow. The repairs were $23000 with car rental. I was originally offered $2650 until I submitted an appraisal from a BMW dealer showing what my car was worth before and after the accident. They then offered $4000 but I managed another $500 and they agreed.

DV claim in process but I’m not hopeful it’ll amount to much...

Originally Posted by MikeP335i

It's never a positive to have an accident recorded on your car as far as the value. I found this out when a girl hit an run my son's car in the school parking lot, on camera. At least in Virginia, charging hit and run is up to the police. When they reviewed the film and asked her if she did it, it was within a 24 hr grace period to report the accident. This was satisfied when she admitted to side swiping the car. I would have not pursued the hit and run myself, but my boy was upset. He knew her and she didn't self report. So he had a lot of questions for the officer and was informed how it works in VA.

Definitely seems like it varies state to state. NYPD was basically of no help and told me to go to civil court if I wanted to purse further. But pursue for what? Insurance is covering everything and I have a DV claim in process...

Originally Posted by GBM3NJ

Damn that sucks. pisses me off at how awful other drivers are and their blatant disregard for others property. That space was massive, I could parallel park my box truck from work there with room to spare.

Yea man.... anyone can get a license it seems. Our road tests in this country are such an embarrassment compared to other countries.

Originally Posted by M5Rick

First thoughts are that woman consumed alcohol before driving which explains the poor parking manoeuvre and the subsequent drive off in case cops came across it.

I’d love to prove alcohol was a factor here.... but this case is pretty much closed from a legal POV.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by MattEcho

At least she's safely wearing her mask. Gotta give her that. She may be damaging property, but think of the lives she saving.

Tony agrees lol.

[6oclockshadow]

Please go after her. If not for yourself, for all of us who have had damage by H&R lowlifes.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Rahul718

LOL @ G80. Spoke to the police over the weekend. In short they were very unmotivated to do anything and basically gave me a civilian report to fill out and mail to the state DMV. In a very nice way he told me not to waste my tome. IMO the extent of the damage should not be a motivating factor - this idiot broke the law so they should go after her. Maybe in an ideal world huh?



Yep... took all pics and I have the estimate. It only came out to $1600 in damages. Bumper respray and wheel refinish. I’ll have all those documents with me. Police are not motivated to help out... hopefully this will happen to her one day. I cant do much more here except be happy that her premiums will go up.



In the process at the moment



Agree with everyone said here. The damage isn’t the issue, it’s the principle. If she tried to do the right thing I probably would have let her go and tried to buff this out myself and if not I’d probably just ask for a few hundred to have the bumper resprayed. But again someone like her would probably balk at the idea
of asking for $400 for a respray.



Haha... see above replies. I can go to civil court but for what? Insurance is covering everything... this is basically a lose/lose situation



Yea I could have parked closer but there was a ton of broken glass by the curb, hence the distance.



See above. NYPD basically said good luck and sent me on my way.



By the looks of her I don’t think she has a sugar problem



Trying not to drop it but I don’t think I’ll have much luck pursing anything further. I agree she needs to learn but if you see my replies above it’s not gonna happen via the police. I just need to trust that karma will come into play.



100% agreed. It’s all principle here.



You’re probably correct judging by how the process is playing out right now.



I was debating on it but the estimate came out to $1600 and no way in hell I was going to let that slide. Plus, you never really know what else could have been damaged and I didn’t want to risk it with this car. I’d rather it be done the right way and I’m sure based on the video, pics and estimate that any future buyer won’t really be deterred.



Yep. Not getting anywhere with the police at the moment. No real surprise. Insurance covered 100% of it and I can just be thankful that her premiums will go up at this point. It seems like if no one died in the accident then the police are not motivated to do much.



My sentiments exactly. It’s all principle for me but aside from insurance covering it, it’s not looking like much will happen from a legal POV.



Wouldn’t you be angry too?



Trying to man.



This is how it’s playing out. Insurance is doing their thing and that’s about the only recourse I have.



As much as I’d love to wouldn’t this count as defamation?



DV claim in process but I’m not hopeful it’ll amount to much...



Definitely seems like it varies state to state. NYPD was basically of no help and told me to go to civil court if I wanted to purse further. But pursue for what? Insurance is covering everything and I have a DV claim in process...



Yea man.... anyone can get a license it seems. Our road tests in this country are such an embarrassment compared to other countries.



I’d love to prove alcohol was a factor here.... but this case is pretty much closed from a legal POV.

Certainly I’d be angry but I wasn’t really talking about you. I have found in my many years on this planet that a vindictive and revengeful attitude absolutely 100% of the time never works out well. I’ve seen a lot of that on this thread. It’s just disappointing that’s all. I’m sorry that happened to you regardless of how and who caused it. No one needs their time taken up like that.

[Marmugmotleocay]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Going to go out on a limb and say that with $23k in damage, you had some repairs that exceeded simply bolting on replacement parts. Yes?

Yes. It needed a new roof, liftgate, back glass, headliner and much more.

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by Marmugmotleocay

Yes. It needed a new roof, liftgate, back glass, headliner and much more.

Damn dude. Sorry to see that. You for sure had a reasonable DV claim and I can see why you were successful. I think it's telling that you had $23k in damage and were only awarded $4.5k in DV. The OP has $1600 in damage. I can't see him being successful.

I see a lot of folks who clearly have never filed one jumping straight to "you need to file a DV claim" over minor scuffs and dings. I'm trying to dispel the myth that because there's damage you can automatically be awarded a DV claim if you simply ask. It's not that easy or simple. So far, of the 5 or 6 people here who all jumped on the DV claim bandwagon, I haven't seen a single one come forward and say they were actually successful in doing so.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Damn dude. Sorry to see that. You for sure had a reasonable DV claim and I can see why you were successful. I think it's telling that you had $23k in damage and were only awarded $4.5k in DV. The OP has $1600 in damage. I can't see him being successful.

I see a lot of folks who clearly have never filed one jumping straight to "you need to file a DV claim" over minor scuffs and dings. I'm trying to dispel the myth that because there's damage you can automatically be awarded a DV claim if you simply ask. It's not that easy or simple. So far, of the 5 or 6 people here who all jumped on the DV claim bandwagon, I haven't seen a single one come forward and say they were actually successful in doing so.

Agree it’s very difficult but impossible if you don’t try. So no reason not to try.

In my case, I didn’t have the info of the other driver since they ran and there was no video so it was automatically dismissed. My insurer paid for repairs but they weren’t going to pay a DV claim. At a minimum you need to get the at fault driver’s insurance (at least in FL) or it goes nowhere.

My neighbor’s kid was rear-ended a few years back in his 4-cyl Mustang. I told him to look into DV and he succeeded. Then he spent it trading in the 4-cyl for a Mustang GT.

[Marmugmotleocay]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Damn dude. Sorry to see that. You for sure had a reasonable DV claim and I can see why you were successful. I think it's telling that you had $23k in damage and were only awarded $4.5k in DV. The OP has $1600 in damage. I can't see him being successful.

I see a lot of folks who clearly have never filed one jumping straight to "you need to file a DV claim" over minor scuffs and dings. I'm trying to dispel the myth that because there's damage you can automatically be awarded a DV claim if you simply ask. It's not that easy or simple. So far, of the 5 or 6 people here who all jumped on the DV claim bandwagon, I haven't seen a single one come forward and say they were actually successful in doing so.

The Insurance company DV appraiser said the car was brought back to the original pre accident condition. The repairs were done at a BMW Certified Collision Center. Everything was was repaired to BMW standards. The car did look just like new but I didn't want it and ordered a 21 X3MC. They basically covered the difference in the loss in value at trade in because of the hit on Carfax.

[M5Rick]

This carfax you have is a piece of work, there's nothing like that over here. It has to have some substantial damage to be registered in four or five categories in line with the amount to repair which is more than just some bodywork replacement damage, certainly not just for a bumper corner scuff.

[Th3Walrus]

Rahul718

Make sure the body shop inspects the headlight for damage, especially on the back side. I had similar damage on my previous vehicle (Ford Flex) from a coworker backing into it. My damage actually looked like way less, but it ended up cracking the rear of the headlight. Keep an eye out for condensation forming in that headlight.