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To me, a GTR or Viper or Z06 or 911 Turbo/GT3/GT2 are all supercars but they are not exotic. A bentley, rolls royce, aston, maybach, maserati, etc are all exotics but they're not supercars. A ferrari, lambo, pagani, bugatti, koeniggsegg, etc are both exotic and supercars. |
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same here. the only reason why i have an m3 and not a Z06 is because i have room to park only 1 car and we have shitty snowy winters over here.
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The only thing that would really hold me back from buying a zo6 is the practicality. I wouldn't mind it as a daily driver but winters would be tough. The again, buying a beater for the snowy or really cold days in the winter would be an easy solution.
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I have a beater VW Golf for the winter so I don't have to drive my 3-series. Of course my 3 is pretty extreme when compared to a stock car. It's definitely worth it.
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is a "supercar" the same as an "exotic"?
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I would say no. A Lotus is an exotic car but it's not a supercar. The Z06 and GTR are supercars but not exotic.
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No, not of all cars, but it's the car I would call exotic that is not also a supercar.
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What's so exotic about a Lotus? It's just a cheaply made poor build quality plastic cart with a Toyota Camry engine in it. Nor is its pricetag prohibitively expensive either. Yes it's a bit rare, but that probably has more to do with lack of demand than a desire to keep it exclusive. It's a good track toy, but there is hardly anything "exotic" about it.
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I would say a lotus is exotic. Being rare and limited is essentially what qualifies a car as being exotic even though we usually associate exotic with something that has more wings and vents than a jet fighter. |
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In Europe a Corvette is also quite a "exotic".
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A Lincoln Blackwood (remember them?) is also rare and limited. Does that make it an exotic? The way I see it, a car is an exotic if it makes people lust over it yet very few can achieve it. Rolls, bentley, Bugatti, Ferrari, etc. are all exotic. People lust over them. Kids hang posters on their bedroom walls of those cars. People dream of the day they see one, let alone drive it. Limited production, astronomical pricetag, and very high demand makes those cars "exotic". A Lotus may have the limited production numbers, but it lacks either the prohibitive pricing or the massive demand and lust over it that would make it an exotic. It's a niche car, made to target a very small specialized section of the car market, basically the handful of trackrats who want a relatively affordable track weapon out of the box.
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If you're a kid with a poster of a Rolls/Bentley on your wall, you're going to be either a rapper or a lawyer. You're confusing expensive with exotic. Of the two cars pictured below, the exotic one is the Rolls Royce? My new rule of thumb is that you a guaranteed a spot on the exotic list if you have a fucking roof scoop (functional or not). End of story.
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I had a poster of a lotus when I was a kid. They look pretty damn exotic to me haha. Can't beat the roof scoop lol.
Honestly, exotic is a bullsh!t term. Sports car, super car, hyper car. In that order with some overlap of each. A bentley, rolls royce, maybach are all luxury cars. Luxury can go all the way from a 3 series to a maybach but they are all different levels of luxury. Nobody really cares to classify them hence why they all fall under one term. |
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It's hard to classify cars, especially as the overall selection of production performance cars has multiplied substantially in the past couple of decades. There are subjective measures like aesthetics and brand cache, and then there are objective measures like performance specs, versatility/usability (or lack thereof), costs, dimensions, and construction methods.
Here's my take on some of these terms, many of which are interchangeable or can be used as umbrella labels. Sports Car: purpose-built; two-door; lightweight construction and agility are a priority; "fun" to drive; visceral; typically FR setup. (e.g. Elise/Exige, S2000, 370Z, Corvette, majority of 911 variants) Sports Coupe: two doors, of course; typically based on an existing chassis that shares a sedan variant; performance intentions; accessible driving dynamics; not usually track capable from the showroom floor; heavier relative to sportscars; rarely stripped down and is daily driveable. (e.g. M3, CTS-V, RS5, etc.) Super Car: a shared concept with the sports car category, but with increased performance metrics that are typically headline-grabbing and in the top percentile of road going cars; can be based on existing sports car chassis, but more common to have a bespoke chassis with expensive production costs, a wide footprint, and a particularly low roofline; usually (but not restricted to) MR, FMR, M4, RR, and R4 layouts; hard to categorize due to constantly shifting performance bars being set. (e.g. ZR1, LF-A, 911 GT3/TT, SLS, 458, GTR, Lamborghini range, etc.) Hyper Car: state of the art tech; completely standout aesthetics; pushes existing powertrain/drivetrain/chassis limits for the given period; absurd price tag. (e.g. TheTheFerrari, Enzo, 918, CGT, P1, F1, etc.) Exotic: umbrella term; applied to cars almost always using a mid-engined setup; rarity is a requisite which carries a big price tag to match; performance doesn't have to be record breaking, but supercar levels are typically expected (e.g. Lambos, Ferraris, high-end Astons, Paganis, etc.) GT: the goal is versatility; DD qualities and high luxury mixed with impressive levels of performance; usually longer wheelbase; relatively medium in weight; insulated; born for the streets and not for the tracks, although they usually can be track-capable. (e.g. M6, F-Type, XK, SL AMGs, etc.) There's a lot of overlap to be had with the multiple labels we have here. You can take a car like the SLS or 991 and check off a few boxes here because their performance and capability envelopes are so vast.
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Stay away from 2006-2008 Z06s mine dropped a rod and blew the motor this is common, mine was underwarrenty and was repaired. I heard from the tech say they had a new 2006 Z06 drop a valve while being moved onto the showroom.
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