Firearms

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by unluky

I was a big fan of the BAD lever when they came out - then I found the Phase 5 one and used it on one of my builds. I went back and swapped out my others. It replaces the entire latch so it does not have that cobbled on look/feel - I really like them. Very clean and less snagging.

Worth a check out if you are interested.

https://phase5wsi.com/extended-bolt-...-v3-ebrv3.html

Those are definitely slick. I might put one on my AR if it weren't just an expensive range toy. (I use my pistol and shotgun for defense.)

[unluky]

Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier

Those are definitely slick. I might put one on my AR if it weren't just an expensive range toy. (I use my pistol and shotgun for defense.)

Hey - you trick out your car and never take it off roads without 70 mph speed limitations do you??? Same deal.

I can justify anything................ =)

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Just ordered a pair of these coupling mags to test...

https://www.crossindustriesinc.com/p...stol-magazine/

[Brasilcat]

Your location description is perfect.

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Brasilcat

Your location description is perfect.

meow

[Lenny_RDM]

Quick question
Fn 509m or s&w mp2.0 4" or s&w shield 2.0 performance ???
And second question 9mm or sw40 ???

[Smgs1992]

M&P
I like .40 but that is the uncommon opinion. 9mm is easier for new shooters as the recoilvis light while .40 is snappy

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

M&P
I like .40 but that is the uncommon opinion. 9mm is easier for new shooters as the recoilvis light while .40 is snappy

9mm definitely for a new shooter. Also 9mm ammo is much more available and cheaper (at least here in Canuckistan) Also, the argument was/is that .40 has more stopping power. The debate on that rages on and I'm not going to take sides on which round is better, but I'd say 9mm has disabled way more than .40 based on popularity and it's really about shot placement. So if you can hit the target more frequently and accurately with 9mm then it doesn't really matter which round has superior stopping power does it.

[Smgs1992]

Originally Posted by Murf993

9mm definitely for a new shooter. Also 9mm ammo is much more available and cheaper (at least here in Canuckistan) Also, the argument was/is that .40 has more stopping power. The debate on that rages on and I'm not going to take sides on which round is better, but I'd say 9mm has disabled way more than .40 based on popularity and it's really about shot placement. So if you can hit the target more frequently and accurately with 9mm then it doesn't really matter which round has superior stopping power does it.

See i’m going to disagree about the availability part. Anyplace that carries 9mm is going to carry .40 as well. The big benefit however is during a crisis such as covid19 when people panic and start to bulk buy ammo. A few years back when you couldnt find 9mm or 22lr anywhere. I could go to walmart or any gunshop and pick up multiple boxes of .40. Price point also is a insignificant on average the difference is $1-2 a box and you can typically find 50rd boxes of defensive/hollowpoints for cheaper than 9mm because of law enforcement. I picked up 5 50rd boxes of federal HST for $18 each not that long ago.
Also going to disagree that 9mm has disabled more people. It is the more commonly used round by police who tend to get in more shoot outs than the typical civilian. That said however i agree shot placement is more important than stopping power.
.40 does offer better barrier penetration due to it being a heavier round but still traveling at similar high velocity.
That said though you cant go wrong with either but if youre considering a .40 rent one from a gun range first. No point in buying it if you wont enjoy shooting it and therefore never go to the range and practice.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

See i’m going to disagree about the availability part. Anyplace that carries 9mm is going to carry .40 as well. The big benefit however is during a crisis such as covid19 when people panic and start to bulk buy ammo. A few years back when you couldnt find 9mm or 22lr anywhere. I could go to walmart or any gunshop and pick up multiple boxes of .40. Price point also is a insignificant on average the difference is $1-2 a box and you can typically find 50rd boxes of defensive/hollowpoints for cheaper than 9mm because of law enforcement. I picked up 5 50rd boxes of federal HST for $18 each not that long ago.
Also going to disagree that 9mm has disabled more people. It is the more commonly used round by police who tend to get in more shoot outs than the typical civilian. That said however i agree shot placement is more important than stopping power.
.40 does offer better barrier penetration due to it being a heavier round but still traveling at similar high velocity.
That said though you cant go wrong with either but if youre considering a .40 rent one from a gun range first. No point in buying it if you wont enjoy shooting it and therefore never go to the range and practice.

So I don't disagree with what you're saying except that here in Canada I rarely see much .40 in gun shops. And for the record, I shoot both rounds but mostly 9mm because of availability.

[Smgs1992]

Originally Posted by Murf993

So I don't disagree with what you're saying except that here in Canada I rarely see much .40 in gun shops. And for the record, I shoot both rounds but mostly 9mm because of availability.

I didnt notice you were in canada before. Thats interesting though. Im jealous of some of your guys laws(happier with many of ours though) such as no tax stamp for a SBR SBS

[AlpineWhite_SJ]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

That said though you cant go wrong with either but if youre considering a .40 rent one from a gun range first. No point in buying it if you wont enjoy shooting it and therefore never go to the range and practice.

Initial range experiences using a few friends handguns in college, I really liked .40 as it was manageable for my skill level versus something heavier like .45 or .357. 9mm seemed like it wouldn't have the stopping power.

Fast forward many years, 9mm is so widespread that I ended up choosing it just because it's fairly ubiquitous while .40 is still more specialized. Other than practicing at the range, my intent for owning a gun is protection when I can't rely on local/state/fed gov't to maintain control and in those scenarios, who knows how much stockpiled ammo is enough. I don't want to be carrying something that the guy down the street doesn't have rounds for if came to that. I've also been looking at getting the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm since it takes the same rounds/magazines as my Glock.

Not saying I wouldn't pick up a .40 or other gun chambered in another caliber, but focused on getting some versatility at the core before I branch out into more calibers for hobby. CCW isn't an option where I live, so not even a consideration FWIW.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by AlpineWhite_SJ

Initial range experiences using a few friends handguns in college, I really liked .40 as it was manageable for my skill level versus something heavier like .45 or .357. 9mm seemed like it wouldn't have the stopping power.

Fast forward many years, 9mm is so widespread that I ended up choosing it just because it's fairly ubiquitous while .40 is still more specialized. Other than practicing at the range, my intent for owning a gun is protection when I can't rely on local/state/fed gov't to maintain control and in those scenarios, who knows how much stockpiled ammo is enough. I don't want to be carrying something that the guy down the street doesn't have rounds for if came to that. I've also been looking at getting the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm since it takes the same rounds/magazines as my Glock.

Not saying I wouldn't pick up a .40 or other gun chambered in another caliber, but focused on getting some versatility at the core before I branch out into more calibers for hobby. CCW isn't an option where I live, so not even a consideration FWIW.

I have a Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm for that very reason. I like the gun an awful lot. I think the Scorpion does better in reviews but the PC has such a smooth action and so little recoil that it's a real joy to shoot. The interchangeable magazines with Glock is genius as far as I'm concerned.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

JP just started making their Supermatch barrels in 8" length. I'd so be buying/building one if NJ's systematic 2A injustices didn't lock people up for owning an AR-style pistol.

https://jprifles.com/buy.php?item=RR-GMR15PIS-OB

[Smgs1992]

Originally Posted by AlpineWhite_SJ

Initial range experiences using a few friends handguns in college, I really liked .40 as it was manageable for my skill level versus something heavier like .45 or .357. 9mm seemed like it wouldn't have the stopping power.

Fast forward many years, 9mm is so widespread that I ended up choosing it just because it's fairly ubiquitous while .40 is still more specialized. Other than practicing at the range, my intent for owning a gun is protection when I can't rely on local/state/fed gov't to maintain control and in those scenarios, who knows how much stockpiled ammo is enough. I don't want to be carrying something that the guy down the street doesn't have rounds for if came to that. I've also been looking at getting the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm since it takes the same rounds/magazines as my Glock.

Not saying I wouldn't pick up a .40 or other gun chambered in another caliber, but focused on getting some versatility at the core before I branch out into more calibers for hobby. CCW isn't an option where I live, so not even a consideration FWIW.

Im surprised you like the .40 over the .45 as imo the .40 has more recoil. It also completely depends on what gun youre using as my 1911 has pretty minimal recoil vs a glock chambered in .45
As far as your concern about finding ammo in a scavenging scenario. Remember that most police force are issued .40 and they will typically have a greater stock pile than most civilians. You can also purchase a separate barrel that will convert a .40 into a 9mm however you cannot convert a 9mm to a .40

[aus]

Originally Posted by AlpineWhite_SJ

Initial range experiences using a few friends handguns in college, I really liked .40 as it was manageable for my skill level versus something heavier like .45 or .357. 9mm seemed like it wouldn't have the stopping power.

Fast forward many years, 9mm is so widespread that I ended up choosing it just because it's fairly ubiquitous while .40 is still more specialized. Other than practicing at the range, my intent for owning a gun is protection when I can't rely on local/state/fed gov't to maintain control and in those scenarios, who knows how much stockpiled ammo is enough. I don't want to be carrying something that the guy down the street doesn't have rounds for if came to that. I've also been looking at getting the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm since it takes the same rounds/magazines as my Glock.

Not saying I wouldn't pick up a .40 or other gun chambered in another caliber, but focused on getting some versatility at the core before I branch out into more calibers for hobby. CCW isn't an option where I live, so not even a consideration FWIW.

Please let us know when you find one in stock!!
They seem to be always out of stock.
.

[AlpineWhite_SJ]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

Im surprised you like the .40 over the .45 as imo the .40 has more recoil. It also completely depends on what gun youre using as my 1911 has pretty minimal recoil vs a glock chambered in .45

As far as your concern about finding ammo in a scavenging scenario. Remember that most police force are issued .40 and they will typically have a greater stock pile than most civilians. You can also purchase a separate barrel that will convert a .40 into a 9mm however you cannot convert a 9mm to a .40

I don't recall what model .45 it was but wasn't a Glock, though the .40 was.

Regarding scavenging, it's a mix across most of the big city departments and its been trending back towards 9mm. Some are standardized on 9mm and those that are .40 standard issue usually allow for 9mm options as well.

https://www.tactical-life.com/firear...lice-sidearms/

[AlpineWhite_SJ]

Originally Posted by aus

Please let us know when you find one in stock!!
They seem to be always out of stock.
.

I know, right?

[chowser51]

Most departments in my area are all switching to 9mm. There's a few departments left that issue .40 or .45 still but they plan on switching back to 9mm the next time they buy guns. I know my department is switching to 9mm after 05/04/2023 or 05/04/2031 (I can retire in 2023 but I might stay till 2031).

These are the calibers from my department since inception
1950-1995 - 357 magnum in some type of S&W revolver
1995-2002 - .40s&w in a S&W 4046 (I started with this in 1998)
2002-2008 - .40s&w in a Glock 22
2008-2018 - gen3 Glock 31 in 357SIG (I took over and switched us to this because I got tired of buying my own ammo)
2018-2031? - gen4 Glock 31 in 357SIG w/Trijicon RMR

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

Im surprised you like the .40 over the .45 as imo the .40 has more recoil. It also completely depends on what gun youre using as my 1911 has pretty minimal recoil vs a glock chambered in .45
As far as your concern about finding ammo in a scavenging scenario. Remember that most police force are issued .40 and they will typically have a greater stock pile than most civilians. You can also purchase a separate barrel that will convert a .40 into a 9mm however you cannot convert a 9mm to a .40

This is what I did, I picked up a 9mm barrel and Glock 19 mags for my Glock 22, I may grab a .357sig barrel for it next as you can use the .40 mags for .357.

I love the versatility.

[scostu]

My current build is basically this...........

https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/pac...stols-vehicle/

Impossible to find a LAW Tactical folding stock adapter now!

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by chowser51

Most departments in my area are all switching to 9mm. There's a few departments left that issue .40 or .45 still but they plan on switching back to 9mm the next time they buy guns. I know my department is switching to 9mm after 05/04/2023 or 05/04/2031 (I can retire in 2023 but I might stay till 2031).

These are the calibers from my department since inception
1950-1995 - 357 magnum in some type of S&W revolver
1995-2002 - .40s&w in a S&W 4046 (I started with this in 1998)
2002-2008 - .40s&w in a Glock 22
2008-2018 - gen3 Glock 31 in 357SIG (I took over and switched us to this because I got tired of buying my own ammo)
2018-2031? - gen4 Glock 31 in 357SIG w/Trijicon RMR

I had an old LE trade in S&W 4006. It was heavier than shit but shot real well. I can’t imagine carrying that thing every day.