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Well, that will certainly fix things! I assume it will raise the Cg more than a bit and probably move the weight balance forward, but it should also still be behind the suspension. Too bad they'll never produce it.
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Please take note ONLY on what is quoted from Subaru's marketing manager Atoshi Atake: Quote:
Then we have Autoexpress' own interpretation without any 'official' quotes: Quote:
And, it's those last two sentences that I would like to address... 1) Quote:
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Engine Output: 1M................................................ ....... S4 335hp @ 5900 RPM................................ 333hp @ 5500-7000 RPM 332 lb-ft.* @ 1500-4500 RPM.................. 325 lb-ft. @ 2900-5300 RPM *An additional 37 lb-ft of temporary torque is delivered with the standard turbo boost function. Unladen Weight: 1M.................. S4 3362 lbs........... 3847 lbs Fuel Economy: 1M.................. S4 19 MPG............. 18 MPG (city) 26 MPG............. 27 MPG (highway) Ok, my 1M managed an average of 14 MPG for a complete gas tank as its best with the help of the cruise control (set to 112mph) and the M button OFF only in highways! Back to the comparison... Gear ratios: 1M.................. S4 1st............ 4.11............... 3.667 2nd........... 2.315.............. 2.158 3rd........... 1.542............... 1.520 4th........... 1.179............... 1.133 5th........... 1.000............... 0.919 6th........... 0.846............... 0.778 Final drive 3.154............... 3.682 Both engines deliver practically the same power output from a 3.0L 6-cylinder engine and despite the Audi's weight disadvantage (485 lbs.), the additional friction losses of the AWD system and a significantly shorter final drive ratio it manages to achieve the same fuel mileage as the 1M!!! |
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Impressed with the 1M V8 (M3 engine transplant) from Egypt?! What about this Toyobaru with the IS-F V8 engine from Japan?!
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And where there was no space before... a miracle just happens... a supercharger with FMIC!!!
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"Environmental pressures mean naturally aspirated engines are rapidly being superseded by other engine architectures and technologies."
This is the sole reason why a NA 'hot' version of the Toyobaru's engine that actually means something performance-wise IS so unlikely! True to be told, the Toybaru doesn't really need more top power it needs more low to mid range grunt, which is to say torque if the goal is higher performance while at the same time increasing the FUN factor at sensible speeds - the ones that most of us can really enjoy. That's why FI is mandatory! Then, with higher torque comes the added benefit of using taller gears for good fuel economy and emissions without significantly compromising performance. Look at what just happened to Honda and their 4-cylinder K20 engine... it failed to meet upcoming emissions regulations and around the end of 2010 Honda finished its mass production - first the higher rated version (222 hp) for the Japanese market and then the less powerful (198 hp) European version. Why is this example important?! Because of the numbers involved... Honda K20 (Japanese market) :
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So, what is left for the Subaru's FA20 engine to gain without compromising emissions requirements?! Yes, there's the direct injection advantage which allowed the engineers to raise compression to 12.5:1... but how much higher does the engine need to rev to gain ONLY 24 hp and at what cost?! And, what about the mid-range torque where the engine is clearly lacking?! Would they use even closer ratios?! Then, what about the stringent emissions regulations?! I'm sorry to say but... low displacement, high-revving NA engines do NOT make sense anymore. If Honda says so (who else?!)... I do believe! This Subaru FA20 is as good as it gets for a naturally aspirated 2.0L engine capable of fulfilling future emissions standards... the problem is, performance wise it's NOT better than the equally powerful Honda K20 of 5 years ago... only cleaner! Last edited by GoingTooFast; 04-30-2012 at 03:46 AM.. |
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Am I crazy to feel wanting to sell my 135i to buy this thing? If it isn't for how much money I'd lose to do this, I'd so buy this car.
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04-30-2012, 11:39 PM | #372 |
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I don't understand why all these complaint with low hp/torque. Find me a car that is FR with more HP that costs within 10% of this thing. Do we even know the 0-60 number of this thing?
If you are saying that money is no object, then look else-where. By all means buy a Cayman R. This thing is simply not for you.
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