Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

And cost them thousands of dollars at the car dealership.

This is what gets me, folk rushes to the dealers to get rid of their perfectly good vehicles to save a few pesos on gas consumption on the sleepy joe recommended ones

[M5Rick]

EV's are in crises with the fire balls happening that's not being addressed by the gubments, they have no answer to this.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

EV's are in crises with the fire balls happening that's not being addressed by the gubments, they have no answer to this.

Friday batteries

[Car-Addicted]

Good news folks, The Chinese manufacture around 90% of our pharmaceuticals
What could possibly go wrong?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Good news folks, The Chinese manufacture around 90% of our pharmaceuticals
What could possibly go wrong?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Good news folks, The Chinese manufacture around 90% of our pharmaceuticals
What could possibly go wrong?

Developed in the Covid lab ?

[PhaceN52]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

EV's are in crises with the fire balls happening that's not being addressed by the gubments, they have no answer to this.

The flamethrower at 5:51 and the elevator fire seem particularly safe, something I can't wait to deal with.

[Car-Addicted]

House Bill HR EVFire will force all EV owners to watch this video prior to signing contract for EV.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

More Green stupidity

Biden admin proposes 58 mpg fuel efficiency standard, sets target date at 2032

The Department of Transportation's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) on Friday announced a proposal to require raising fuel economy standards to 58 miles per gallon.

Specifically, the proposal aims for a respective 2% annual increase for passenger cars’ and a 4% increase in light trucks' Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards for 2027-2032 models. It will also require 2030-2035 model "heavy-duty pickup trucks and vans" to increase fuel efficiency by 10% per year.

"If finalized as proposed, the updated standards would save Americans hundreds of dollars at the pump," NHTSA said in a press release, "all while making America more energy secure and less reliant on foreign oil."

https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases...dpuv-standards

I seem to remember circa 2018 or so we were no longer reliant on foreign oil...

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/0...batteries.html

I am really impressed with the manufacturing and efficiency gains of Tesla’s hairpin motor over the old winding method.

Makes even more sense to get rid of the heavy battery and replace it with a generator.

[DrFerry]

Running your Tesla off a Honda generator in the trunk...
https://youtube.com/shorts/_si36bGHnbc?feature=share
and
https://twitter.com/anandmahindra/st...340278784?s=20

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

Running your Tesla off a Honda generator in the trunk...
https://youtube.com/shorts/_si36bGHnbc?feature=share
and
https://twitter.com/anandmahindra/st...340278784?s=20

So ...Charging a firestarter with a firestarter !

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by David70

You can buy whatever you want, neither my or your opinion will matter much for where the world goes with the program. If batteries don't improve I think plug in hybrids are likely one of the best solutions for how many actually use their car. Problem I have with them is once you are doing a lot of long range driving, going past the electric range, their highway mpg isn't very good, you might as well have a standard hybrid. You also have to deal with plugging it in very day and the maintenance/repair that come with an ICE when many will almost never use the engine. A really complicated powertrain compared to an EV.

As batteries get better, charging times drop, and there are more chargers the benefits of the plug in hybrid over the EV get smaller.

The idea that you would kill yourself if you thought we had a climate crisis is pretty far out there. Everyone has options on doing something positive. I don't see the this as black and white, do nothing or kill myself. I try to make reasonable, positive changes in my life and surroundings. I wouldn't daily drive a car that got 12 mpg, it isn't going to save the world but this waste also isn't doing my part.

I am not proposing a plug-in serial hybrid (Volt) nor a plug-in parallel hybrid (Prius). I'm proposing a pure series hybrid where the ICE creates electricity for the EV drivetrain. A small EV battery is required for surge power requirements. Or very large capacitors could be used instead of a battery.

The Chevrolet Volt was the near perfect solution IMO, none have engine maintenance issues and in gas-only mode still returned 37 (Gen 1) - 42 (Gen 2) MPG. The combined EV/gas MPGe was 93 (Gen 1) and 106 (Gen 2) and better than the Prius (parallel hybrid). Detractors of the serial hybrid solution point to such a vehicle having a "complex" drivetrain, surely the Voltec drivetrain was complex since the planetary gear transmission allowed the ICE to directly power the drive wheels in some modes. But the Voltec drivetrain is quite robust and has very little failure issues. It works quite well. The reason it didn't sell better than it did is because sadly the majority of the driving public couldn't understand the technology, and sadly the Volt has the GM quality/American car company monkey on its back.

Also, the majority of the driving public think the EV drivetrain is less complex than ICE. I disagree with that sentiment. While the EV motor maybe less complex than an internal combustion engine because it uses less parts and has less rotating/moving parts and there is no transmission, the EV drivetrain requires complex electrical current management and charging modules that trade machined parts for electronic components. EVs, especially Tesla, have quite complex heat management systems (equipment) to support battery temperature management and cabin HVAC management. Any subsystem with parts in it has a meantime-between-failure and will break and require repair or replacement. Any component that heat cycles eventually wears out and breaks.

On top of the EV drivetrain complexity issue, EVs require an expensive and complex charging infrastructure to be set up and maintained. Drawing current out of a battery is no less complex than moving current into the battery. So, the EV carries a charging module on-board (weight-cost-reliability) it also requires a charging machine dockside to recharge it (availability-cost-reliability). So IMO, saying the BEV drivetrain is simpler and more reliable is BS. Again, most of the driving public does not understand the complexity of the BEV and equate it to just plugging in their cell Phone every night to recharge it. The majority of the driving public think the ICE drivetrain is more complex than BEV because it makes noise, gets hot, makes exhaust, and requires slightly more periodic maintenance, on top of they have no idea actually how an ICE operates. If their cell phone needed a tiny noisy ICE-powered charger on their nightstand to charge their phone they'd think their phone was an atrocious planet killer too. But since electricity is a clean fuel available at their wall outlet, and silently charges their cell phone while they sleep, it's no harm to the planet. Most people don't understand all the noise, emissions and complex machinery that requires repair and periodic maintenance to make that "clean" energy at the wall outlet exists out somewhere in the rural landscape where they don't see or hear it (windmills included).

Regarding the killing oneself, December 2009 was when the US EPA declared CO2 a "dangerous pollutant". Last time I checked I exhale CO2, so shit, I'm killing the planet just by breathing. Easy to do the math after that (if one believes in anthropogenic climate change). But I'm not insane like this person was...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-i..._of_Wynn_Bruce

To live life, a whole bunch of chemical reactions happen every second. Every chemical reaction has waste heat (including the ones needed to make this post). Waste heat is killing the planet according to the Globalwarmingclimatechange Fearers.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

Running your Tesla off a Honda generator in the trunk...

That's funny but incredibly sad at the same time.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

That's funny but incredibly sad at the same time.

That generator will take a week to charge that Tesla.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

That generator will take a week to charge that Tesla.

Got me thinking, It not like you can call AAA for a can of gas or a tow for a EV?
Well here is the answer.

There are certain complications that apply only to electric-powered vehicles. Most electric vehicles don’t have a true neutral position in their transmissions. Because of this, moving the wheels can cause the motor to turn as well, which can damage the engine. EVs generally require flatbed towing to prevent this type of damage.

Rather than requesting a tow, you can ask for a charging truck. AAA now offers mobile electric vehicle charging in 15 cities across the country.

[Car-Addicted]

Things that make you go Hmmmm.

The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.



Musk becoming more political is clearly having a negative impact, but it’s overall minimal when compared to the 87% of Model 3 owners still looking at a Tesla for their next vehicle.

https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/disap...elling-survey/

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Got me thinking, It not like you can call AAA for a can of gas or a tow for a EV?
Well here is the answer.

There are certain complications that apply only to electric-powered vehicles. Most electric vehicles don’t have a true neutral position in their transmissions. Because of this, moving the wheels can cause the motor to turn as well, which can damage the engine. EVs generally require flatbed towing to prevent this type of damage.

Rather than requesting a tow, you can ask for a charging truck. AAA now offers mobile electric vehicle charging in 15 cities across the country.

Question is does the F150 catch on fire while it's charging the EV? https://www.motorbiscuit.com/your-20...ay-catch-fire/

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Things that make you go Hmmmm.

The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.



Musk becoming more political is clearly having a negative impact, but it’s overall minimal when compared to the 87% of Model 3 owners still looking at a Tesla for their next vehicle.

https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/disap...elling-survey/

Literally JUST read that same article. LOL

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Literally JUST read that same article. LOL

The Greenies are likely to be a very a fickle market. We can see that they are more influenced by emotion that facts. Me, if I had Ferrari money I wouldn't care if Mussolini was still Prime Minister of Italy, there would be a Ferrari in my garage.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Good news folks, The Chinese manufacture around 90% of our pharmaceuticals
What could possibly go wrong?

It’s scary it’s so high. Oh well. We are their bitch😳😂

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Things that make you go Hmmmm.

The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.



Musk becoming more political is clearly having a negative impact, but it’s overall minimal when compared to the 87% of Model 3 owners still looking at a Tesla for their next vehicle.

https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/disap...elling-survey/

I don’t give 2 shits about Elon/Ev’’s or any of it. As song as he keeps the stock going, he is my BOY!! Thing has been a cash cow 🐄