Horner in trouble at Red Bull

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

this:

what are the chances that some random dutch newspaper leaks the entire "confidential" report at some point in time ....

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by g21

what are the chances that some random dutch newspaper leaks the entire "confidential" report at some point in time ....

Ask Erik van Haren of "De Telegraaf". He will be very interested in getting his hands on a copy. Maybe the individual who tipped him about the complaint could help him out again. But the source should beware: with very secret documents the copies may feature deliberate very tiny layout differences or some different meta data, compared to the original/master document (purpose: to individualise a source if a copy ever gets leaked).

It was of key importance that the whole incident would come to a close prior to the first F1 race of this season. Time was of the essence. And effectively, the incident was wrapped up on the brink of the Bahrain race weekend (Red Bull HQ statement was released only a few minutes after touchdown of the private jet with Horner in Bahrain). Horner can now shake off any related question by journalists (e.g. "Red Bull has dismissed the grievance. Next question, please.").

"Horner cleared by investigation - Torment over: Geri Halliwell ‘relieved & elated’ after weeks of hell as F1 husband Christian Horner cleared of sending improper texts
Geri was said to have been left 'in floods of tears' when the scandal first broke"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26251...cleared-texts/
"A source told The Sun last night: “Christian’s career, his marriage and his reputation were attacked but there are now no question marks over his character.
“There is no shadow. But questions are being asked about how this happened, why it happened and who was responsible.”"

[lens]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Ask Erik van Haren of "De Telegraaf". He will be very interested in getting his hands on a copy. Maybe the individual who tipped him about the complaint could help him out again. But the source should beware: with very secret documents the copies may feature deliberate very tiny layout differences or some different meta data, compared to the original/master document (purpose: to individualise a source if a copy ever gets leaked).

It was of key importance that the whole incident would come to a close prior to the first F1 race of this season. Time was of the essence. And effectively, the incident was wrapped up on the brink of the Bahrain race weekend (Red Bull HQ statement was released only a few minutes after touchdown of the private jet with Horner in Bahrain). Horner can now shake off any related question by journalists (e.g. "Red Bull has dismissed the grievance. Next question, please.").

"Horner cleared by investigation - Torment over: Geri Halliwell ‘relieved & elated’ after weeks of hell as F1 husband Christian Horner cleared of sending improper texts
Geri was said to have been left 'in floods of tears' when the scandal first broke"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26251...cleared-texts/
"A source told The Sun last night: “Christian’s career, his marriage and his reputation were attacked but there are now no question marks over his character.
“There is no shadow. But questions are being asked about how this happened, why it happened and who was responsible.”"

I always say, if you're shooting someone, you better not miss.

In this case, their "overwhelming evidence" that was claimed over multiple months/years was not enough, this coming from a 3rd party investigator.

If it was obvious and cut, Horner would have been gone weeks ago.

Another big thing is, no other witnesses came forward to support said employee, which already should ring a bell.

This really seems like a case of "he hurt my feelings"

In a sport where everything is quick and everyone needs to carry their weight, if someone slacks, the whole team can pay for it, you don't win championships on laziness, I'm sure Horner probably yelled at her and said more insults than he should have.

[GuidoK]

So I wonder what happens from now on.

Are we gonna hear something more from this?

If we don't, then I still expect big money has been paid to the assistent, or...there was no sexual misconduct at all and it was something entirely else and the misconduct and assistent was a smokescreen....

[Andrew2]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Are we gonna hear something more from this?

Hopefully not but for certain, from some of the trash media teams

[Car-Addicted]

I listened to the Hamilton interview today during the free practice today and heard him say that diversity would be Mercedes strength in winning another championship. What a pile of male bovine byproduct. Formula One is the ultimate meritocracy and NOT a social construct test laboratory. No intelligent person chooses a surgeon or pilot based on their diversity. I'm speculating here but I suspect this point has been driven home at Red Bull.

[Andrew2]

Agreed ... and to all those on the grid similarly opined ... Shut Up And Drive

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I listened to the Hamilton interview today during the free practice today and heard him say that diversity would be Mercedes strength in winning another championship. What a pile of male bovine byproduct. Formula One is the ultimate meritocracy and NOT a social construct test laboratory. No intelligent person chooses a surgeon or pilot based on their diversity. I'm speculating here but I suspect this point has been driven home at Red Bull.

What on earth has what he said got to do at this particular time with the conclusion of the complaint case.

[jkoral]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Are we gonna hear something more from this?

https://twitter.com/jennafryer/statu...mgBUSykhTElDJQ

[Jenna Fryer] A Google drive containing all the “Christian Horner evidence” has just been emailed from an anonymous account to hundreds of journalists

[MontyB1]

Something tells me this isn't as over as RedBull want it to be yet.....

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26222...ss-leaked.html

[3798j]

mutiny...phase 2.

[toxik]

i hear its fake and looks photoshopped.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by toxik

i hear its fake and looks photoshopped.

18" ?

[toxik]

Originally Posted by g21

18" ?

poor ginger

[lens]

Originally Posted by toxik

i hear its fake and looks photoshopped.

Yeah, who the frig says "I just had cocoa puffs and now ready for bed"

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

What on earth has what he said got to do at this particular time with the conclusion of the complaint case.

He is already whining about diversity at Ferrari,,,,Hammy is just a trouble maker...Shut it and drive!!!

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by toxik

i hear its fake and looks photoshopped.

Not only does the "original" look photoshopped or AI generated. Now there is a doctered version of original going around with graphic pictures added from a Polish sports scandal.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by M3WC

As long as everyone is still speculating. Watch this end up being a mutual relationship, that Horner decided to abruptly end. He offered her some future pay/bonuses to leave RBF1 and she was like hell to the no. Would explain a lot...why it isn't criminal, the low payoff amount, why she deleted all her socials, why she hasn't gone public.

If the leaks are to be believed, they are insulating the relationship was consensual. The woman looks to be a willing participant. Like I said early explains a lot.

Explains why the woman deleted all her socials and went into hiding, she is embarrassed. Why this wasn't criminal, two consenting adults. Also why Horner denies the "controlling behavior", because it wasn't. If anything Horner is guilty of cheating on his wife.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by M3WC

As long as everyone is still speculating. Watch this end up being a mutual relationship, that Horner decided to abruptly end. He offered her some future pay/bonuses to leave RBF1 and she was like hell to the no. Would explain a lot...why it isn't criminal, the low payoff amount, why she deleted all her socials, why she hasn't gone public.

Also why Horner denies the "controlling behavior", because it wasn't. If anything Horner is guilty of cheating on his wife

this is a great theory. happy to go along with that.

but that means my favourite spice girl will still have ongoing sadness.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

He is already whining about diversity at Ferrari,,,,Hammy is just a trouble maker...Shut it and drive!!!

Can you imagine the Commendatore reaction to diversity?
Racing is a great mania to which one must sacrifice everything, without reticence, without hesitation.
Enzo Ferrari, the Commendatore

[DrFerry]

Horner texts leaked:
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[swagon]

this has already become annoying.

wake me up when this blows over and we know what's really happened which, I bet, we will never really know.