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      06-04-2010, 03:09 PM   #287
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Thanks for the finance lesson. I am well aware of trading and all the risks involved. I agree that you do need to "fully grasp what you are getting into". Paper gains/losses are part of the risk. I don't think the OP would be investing $4k if you could not afford to lose it all. Making money, no matter how you do it is a risk. "It takes money to make money"
I know what I was saying was basic, but you'd be surprised at what some people on this board don't know (at least gathering from what people say from time to time).
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      06-04-2010, 03:22 PM   #288
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I'm just curios about other peoples opinions, I have made my decision upon experience and facts (not only mine). this time was more like ganble a little bit, I'm really not loking for advice, I pay people to do that.

And long term does not means I will not trade my shares when I think is the right time.

Loking for opinions if this had ever happen to you?
Or do you belive this could really make that much (25x)?

Honestly I would be pleased with a 20% return on this market.
25x is a huge return bro. I sincerely doubt you will make that trading straight equities....unless you can lever up substantially. Might throw in some options here and there....that can help....but I'd say you'd have to catch a penny stock to make that kind of dough with 4K.

I think in these times, capital preservation is more important than appreciation. Obviously there is alot of money to be made when the market falls, but for the average retail investor who does not have the tools to engage in advanced and exotic derivatives to hedge their positions, making 25x return is a tough task. It can be done, and has been done, but these cases are few and far in between.

As frightful as it is to watch the markets these days, (DOW down almost 3% today, Eur crossed 1.20), there are always opportunities to invest and make some money. The trick is knowing when to pull the trigger. I personally like ETF's for the time being....and I use them to hedge my overall single name positions.
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      06-04-2010, 03:28 PM   #289
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Except the fact that he claims he is using non public information so he already admitted online it is insider trading.

You always seem to give really bad advice.

I would personally say, given the fact you claimed you have inside info, it is not worth the risk.
Hence the first line, "if $4K is not a big deal to you." If he thinks he can make money, than he should do it. Thats what the stock market is all about. I know plenty of people where $4K isnt a big deal.

Dont see how thats bad advice
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My family made a little over a million a couple years back on 30K investment on a penny stock pharmaceutical company that a family friend worked for and it was supposedly on the verge of coming out with a "cure" for cancer.
LOL

but hey at least your family made a lot back. your family probably was wealthy to begin with if they had 30g's to put at stake
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      06-04-2010, 09:51 PM   #291
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I have my conservative stocks, this is more like a big chance, and I would not like to loose the chance. remember when Apple was like 95$ and today is $263.12?
Wow, when was this? That is insane. You could retire with that increase...
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If you followed my advice you would have made money.
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Inverse euro ETFs are nice right now, but be weary since the Euro may be hitting its low point soon. Or..it could go even lower.
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      06-04-2010, 10:19 PM   #294
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Inverse euro ETFs are nice right now, but be weary since the Euro may be hitting its low point soon. Or..it could go even lower.
lol that's like not saying shit
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I thought it would be interesting to see how many people on here are into stocks and constantly do trades. I tried searching and couldn't find anything so forgive me if this is a repost. I also thought it would be helpful to list stocks that you think could be on the rise. I used to trade 2 years ago but stopped and would like to get back into it.
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There are a few traders on here that I have been in contact with but would never expect anyone to offer up their trades for free.
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      11-17-2010, 11:34 PM   #298
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      11-17-2010, 11:38 PM   #299
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      11-17-2010, 11:44 PM   #300
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i run a private hedge fund...we day-trade commodity and index futures for clients, alongside with position trading in equities, options and fixed income (goveys, inves grade and junk)....the whole shebang!
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i run a private hedge fund...we day-trade commodity and index futures for clients, alongside with position trading in equities, options and fixed income (goveys, inves grade and junk)....the whole shebang!
How's business? (serious question)
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      11-18-2010, 12:06 AM   #302
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i run a private hedge fund...we day-trade commodity and index futures for clients, alongside with position trading in equities, options and fixed income (goveys, inves grade and junk)....the whole shebang!
How's business? (serious question)
Business is Excellent! And has always been. I am very fortunate.. Seriously though, I can't complain. Neither can our clients.
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Business is Excellent! And has always been. I am very fortunate.. Seriously though, I can't complain. Neither can our clients.
Nice to hear. I guess that also means you're actually good at your job.
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      11-18-2010, 01:33 AM   #304
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you didn't search, admit it. I hate when people say I've searched but didn't see anything. There are countless stock threads if you type in "stocks" into the search.
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There are a few traders on here that I have been in contact with but would never expect anyone to offer up their trades for free.
I think this thread would better be suited for the more inexperienced traders who would like advice from each other and give their insight on their research. I wouldn't expect any pros to come here and make us rich.

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you didn't search, admit it. I hate when people say I've searched but didn't see anything. There are countless stock threads if you type in "stocks" into the search.
I actually did search. I typed in stocks and stock market and couldn't find anything on the first couple of pages. I hate when people post useless bs in threads.
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I thought it would be interesting to see how many people on here are into stocks and constantly do trades. I tried searching and couldn't find anything so forgive me if this is a repost. I also thought it would be helpful to list stocks that you think could be on the rise. I used to trade 2 years ago but stopped and would like to get back into it.
this is not how capitalism works...
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I think this thread would better be suited for the more inexperienced traders who would like advice from each other and give their insight on their research. I wouldn't expect any pros to come here and make us rich.
LOL well in that case I am still chiding my dad for not lending me money to put in Ford...I was in school and poor

He said get your degree and then you can lose all your own money in the market...
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      11-18-2010, 10:03 AM   #308
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anyone jump on the GM bandwagon? up 7% from initial IPO level.

I trade everday.....mostly in and out of ETF's (no restrictions/ holding periods). Got a nice little trading robot that dictates which sector spdrs to buy based on a few variables.
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