The Airplane Thread

[3798j]

"A South Carolina marine robotics company seems pretty sure it’s found Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan’s Lockheed Electra..."
"The searchers applied a theory put forward 14 years ago that an exhausted Noonan forgot to consider crossing the International Date Line in his celestial navigation calculation and directed Earhart to fly a course 60 miles west of where he intended."

https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/...s-plane-found/

https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/AEdescr1.html

[Llarry]

I'm sure somebody is going to organize an expedition to take a submersible (manned or robot) down and take a look at what is quite possibly Earhart's plane.

[freakystyly]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/ufos...ries-1.6748300

Some long dialog between pilots seeing the same phenomenon. Who said the prairies were boring! Couldn't find the UFO thread but this one applies I guess too.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Llarry

I'm sure somebody is going to organize an expedition to take a submersible (manned or robot) down and take a look at what is quite possibly Earhart's plane.

There were quite a lot of airplanes turned into submarines in the Pacific theater during WW-II. It seems like every previous "eureka" moment so far has been one of those aircraft and not an Electra.....

[vreihen16]

Speaking of UFOs and Amelia Earhart, every Star Trek fan knows that she and Noonan was kidnapped by the Briori and hauled to the Delta Quadrant to be used as slave labor.....

[flybigjet]

Just sitting by the pool in Guam today when we saw this.

So far in the past several days, we've seen F/A-18's, F-16's, F-15's, C-130's, KC-46's, and B-52's. landing at Anderson.

No more jets for us-- tomorrow, my wife and I are headed to Truk (Chuuk) Lagoon to dive on the WW II Japanese Ghost Fleet.

R.

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

So far in the past several days, we've seen F/A-18's, F-16's, F-15's, C-130's, KC-46's, and B-52's. landing at Anderson.

No more jets for us-- tomorrow, my wife and I are headed to Truk (Chuuk) Lagoon to dive on the WW II Japanese Ghost Fleet.

R.

Andersen AFB has become quite the critical American outpost in the Western Pacific.

Chuuk must be an incredible dive site -- enjoy!

[Llarry]

Tomcat Thursday

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by Llarry

Andersen AFB has become quite the critical American outpost in the Western Pacific.

Chuuk must be an incredible dive site -- enjoy!

Want to guess what the #1 target of the Chinese will be when the balloon goes up?

I guess we're going to be building up Saipan as well-- but it's only 135 air miles from Guam, so it probably won't fare much better.

Second time in Truk-- diving on the wrecks of Operation Hailstone is something that every serious wreck diver needs to do at least once in their life.

R.

[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Second time in Truk-- diving on the wrecks of Operation Hailstone is something that every serious wreck diver needs to do at least once in their life.

R.

Lots to see underwater for sure. Hailstone was like a turkey shoot.

[Llarry]

RCAF CF-117 Phantom of 409 Squadron; a brief moment of glory with a sour ending. (What-if model)

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

Lots to see underwater for sure. Hailstone was like a turkey shoot. [/ATTACH]

My Dad joined VF-5 on the USS Yorktown just a couple of weeks after Hailstone as a replacement pilot. The carrier task group went back to Truk later in April for more strikes and he flew fighter sweeps in those. The air opposition was minimal, he recollected, and mostly the fighters strafed parked aircraft on airfields. (But he remembered the AA as being pretty intense.) His tenure in the squadron was brief, as they were pulled off the ship for rest and regrouping. He was disappointed at the short period of combat and requested reassignment to the fighter pilot pool in Hawaii so he could go again.

[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by Llarry

RCAF CF-117 Phantom of 409 Squadron; a brief moment of glory with a sour ending.

They would have been a hell of a lot better than the hand-me-down Voodoos.
Never let decisions about defense to temporary politicians.


https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread...and-116.58183/

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Want to guess what the #1 target of the Chinese will be when the balloon goes up?

I guess we're going to be building up Saipan as well-- but it's only 135 air miles from Guam, so it probably won't fare much better.

I believe Guam's ballistic missile defense (BMD) is presently a Patriot battery. We should be installing the best BMD capability we can, which is probably a land-based AEGIS system like the ones in Europe. I suppose we could also have Navy missile destroyers with magazines full of BMD-capable missiles loitering in the area. But none of these systems is 100% effective.

[Lady Jane]

The V-Tail Bonanza a.k.a. "The doctor killer".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Bonanza


Left a mark in the music industry when one crashed on this date today in 1959 with Buddy Holly and others on board.





And another one crashed this week in Florida.

https://www.foxla.com/news/clearwate...bile-home-park

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

Left a mark in the music industry when one crashed on this date today in 1959 with Buddy Holly and others on board.

The day the music died.

Bye, bye, Miss American Pie.....

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

The V-Tail Bonanza a.k.a. "The doctor killer".

Along with DR. killers (pretty much any Bonanza), we called Mooney's "lawyer killers."

[Lady Jane]

I'm going to put that here since it's plane related.

Betty Nash. https://abcnews.go.com/US/86-year-wo...ry?id=86063716

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Along with DR. killers (pretty much any Bonanza), we called Mooney's "lawyer killers."

I think the Bonanza (un)earned that reputation because rich people (doctors) could afford the airplane, but lacked the skills to fly it safely. The Bonanza is a good airplane in the right hands.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

I think the Bonanza (un)earned that reputation because rich people (doctors) could afford the airplane, but lacked the skills to fly it safely. The Bonanza is a good airplane in the right hands.

I always equated it with learning to drive in a Bug, then buying a muscle-car.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

I think the Bonanza (un)earned that reputation because rich people (doctors) could afford the airplane, but lacked the skills to fly it safely. The Bonanza is a good airplane in the right hands.

Doctors (and lawyers, I suppose) had/have a lot of disposable income, and the "Split-Tail-Doctor-Killer" was a sexy looking beast and in their price point.

The problem arose when doctors and lawyers, who were highly trained and competent in their own professions, thought that their skills transferred directly from one industry to another. In other words, you might be the worlds hottest doc, but you had damn well understand the difference between currency and proficiency in the aviation world.

Current simply means you're legal as far as the FAA is concerned. Proficient means you actually are warmed up and have a vague clue about what you're doing.

They're VERY different things.

Yes, you can get away with doing three takeoff/landings in 90 days (and you can actually do all three on Day 89 and still be legal), but even if you have have thousands and thousands of hours, it might not be the smartest move you could make from a proficiency standpoint.

On top of that, the doctor/lawyer with a whopping 200 hours and maaaaybe an Instrument rating goes out at night and/or in sketchy weather and the end result tended to be about what you'd expect.

Termination of the flight due to rapid deceleration trauma.

R.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Just sitting by the pool in Guam today when we saw this.

So far in the past several days, we've seen F/A-18's, F-16's, F-15's, C-130's, KC-46's, and B-52's. landing at Anderson.

No more jets for us-- tomorrow, my wife and I are headed to Truk (Chuuk) Lagoon to dive on the WW II Japanese Ghost Fleet.

R.

Your photo brings back vivid memories! When I was a kid back in 1955 (or 1956), I remember seeing B52s flying over my house in Northern California. My dad, a Marine pilot at the time, told me all about the B52 and how awesome they were. I think they flew out of Travis AFB so we saw them frequently. Who knew that almost 70 years later the B52 would still be flying.