F1 2024: Monaco GP - Monte Carlo (May 26)

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

Elsewhere on the calendar? I never suggested that. It’s either off the calendar completely or remains as the worst one there!

No, you didn't suggest that but others have.

Maybe take out the chicane in sector 2 and make it a DRS zone

I tried to upload a pic but BP is acting up today.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Thank you my friend.

Dina was a (giant) black Riesenschnauzer .
Pic was shot in 2009 , while she was sleeping in her bed in good health.
Dina was super intelligent . We will miss our Dina forever...

Dina was lovely, when our black and tan dashchund Jasper passed 7 years ago at 15 we immediately got another tan one from kennel in Warsaw. His bark and growl is like from a dog much larger than him.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Looks like the car is completely totalled even the tub on each corner with just the PU maybe salvegeable, but the next upgrades should be in the pipeline for fitting. Checo should have sensed more knowing KMags banzai moves of last and it's likely KM won't be at Montreal with penalty on the way. Maybe Lawson will be getting a call from Horner soon.

The WDC standings after the Monaco GP ...

Charlie is coming closer with just 31 driver points from MAX !
At this moment ,the RB20 is the 3th dominant car of the grid and Wolff's Benz car improved as well..

I don't see how Red Bull can win the constructors title with a driver like Checo screwing it always up !
It's time for the Red Bull Team to fix A.Newey's RB20 design and the never ending setup mess !
A. Newey : There's something I really don't like about the RB20...

I mean : The clock is ticking for MAX and the Red Bull Team !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Checo's RB20 looks like a pile of scrap !
This crash will put Checo under even more pressure for the upcoming races in this season .
I mean , he just can't crash again ...

Ough ! And there goes the Red Bull budget cap ...Horner won't he happy with that !!!
It's a very bad situation for Checo , to extend his RB contract

Too bad .....

MAX hinted that the race was a snoozefest and that 'I should have brought a pillow with me' zzzzzzz

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

MAX hinted that the race was a snoozefest and that 'I should have brought a pillow with me' zzzzzzz

Yeah . MAX was very calm in the race ...
But he won't be calm behind the Red Bull curtains !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . MAX was very calm in the race ...
But he won't be calm behind the Red Bull curtains !

I must admit I stopped watching the replay and as for not being calm behind the RB curtains is concerned look at this clip from The Prisoner handing in his resignation from the firm, for The Prisoner read an angry MAX and Horner for the man behind the desk and he's saying SORT the car or that's my resignation for real !
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=th...zbuUQ77_Y,st:0

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

MAX hinted that the race was a snoozefest and that 'I should have brought a pillow with me' zzzzzzz

Helmut Marko's rough estimate : Checo's crash will cost us $2-3 Million !!!
I think , Checo's car is totaled ..

That sounds like a big hole in the Red Bull budget cap ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Helmut Marko's rough estimate : Checo's crash will cost us $2-3 Million !!!
I think , Checo's car is totaled ..

That sounds like a big hole in the Red Bull budget cap ...

Though it was KMags fault, mostly, the Haas cars are relatively just superficially damaged with easy repairs and I don't know it may be the last straw for the RB boss in Austria concerning the huge budget bite, so it could be 'curtains' for Checo's contract extension.

[Car-Addicted]

Fantastic race. Very happy for Charles Leclerc and Ferrari. Good race for McLaren. Ocon and Magnussen are idiots. Season is about to get a lot more complicated but I would never count Red Bull out. Checo will be lucky to get one year contract much less two. Honestly it is amazing that the Red Bull chassis held up that well and let Checo walk away.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The WDC standings after the Monaco GP ...

Charlie is coming closer with just 31 driver points from MAX !
At this moment ,the RB20 is the 3th dominant car of the grid and Wolff's Benz car improved as well..

I don't see how Red Bull can win the constructors title with a driver like Checo screwing it always up !
It's time for the Red Bull Team to fix A.Newey's RB20 design and the never ending setup mess !
A. Newey : There's something I really don't like about the RB20...

I mean : The clock is ticking for MAX and the Red Bull Team !

Let's not worry too much, I'm only looking to Montreal now. Perhaps Newey was referring to the something he doesn't like as to the street track pace, the suspension was go kart hard with MAX having to take kerbs to centimetre perfection as otherwise he'd slide sideways too much.

[Car-Addicted]

Montreal is prefect for low, stiff, aerodynamically efficient cars like Red Bull. Max will be smiling soon.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Montreal is prefect for low, stiff, aerodynamically efficient cars like Red Bull. Max will be smiling soon.

I've been to Montreal ages ago and saw the track next to that fast flowing river, it's a great place to attend and the prices are reasonable with a good transport system. The track should suit the RB's much more as you say and MAX with Checo will be itching to get to it.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Let's not worry too much, I'm only looking to Montreal now. Perhaps Newey was referring to the something he doesn't like as to the street track pace, the suspension was go kart hard with MAX having to take kerbs to centimetre perfection as otherwise he'd slide sideways too much.

MAX : This can't be fixed in a few weeks ...
Horner : We're just trying to understand the RB20 issues...

When I read this ...It won't be easy my friend
IMHO . The RB20 setup really s@cks !
MAX in FP1 : I can't run one more lap , this car can crash at any moment..
Well...I never heard this before !

The Kmag situation ?
No further investigation is required , it was just a race incident !
Good job Kmag ,3 cars sent to the trash !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX : This can't be fixed in a few weeks ...
Horner : We're just trying to understand the RB20 issues...

When I read this ...It won't be easy my friend
IMHO . The RB20 setup really s@cks !
MAX in FP1 : I can't run one more lap , this car can crash at any moment..
Well...I never heard this before !

The Kmag situation ?
No further investigation is required , it was just a race incident !
Good job Kmag ,3 cars sent to the trash !

Maybe Sparky can say a bit more on this but sure you were right with the sim prediction from Milton Keynes by Buemi ? that it would be difficult. I'm sure it will be more favourable in a fortnight with fewer problems, choosing from the many set ups causes the worry, it's same with all the other teams

It's funny but as Chas was handling the Monaco flag on the podium he dropped it and for a moment he may have had it look like the Polish national flag with the red at the bottom.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Montreal is prefect for low, stiff, aerodynamically efficient cars like Red Bull. Max will be smiling soon.

Yeah , right mate . That was so for the RB19 in 2023

Red Bull won't find a dynamic-functional RB20 setup for Montreal , just like in the last 3 races because it really s@cks ..

Did you see Lando's topspeed at Imola ?
Well that was like 343 km/h !
MAX was coming short with a top of 330 km/h

In other words : McLaren and Ferrari rule now ..
I'm not sure if Red Bull can fix the setup issues with that special RB20 design..

More ...(!)
The Red Bull Team can't upgrade the car before the never ending setup issues are fixed !
Ohhh well . That's great news for Ferrari and McLaren and who knows even for Mercedes !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Maybe Sparky can say a bit more on this but sure you were right with the sim prediction from Milton Keynes by Buemi ? that it would be difficult. I'm sure it will be more favourable in a fortnight with fewer problems, they just have choose from the many set ups which causes the worry, same with all the other teams

It's funny but as Chas was handling the Monaco flag on the podium he dropped it and for a moment he may have had it look like the Polish national flag with the red at the bottom.

Charlie won't sleep much this night ...

Charlie ran a fantastic race ! He didn't steal this victory
Great job from Ferrari too

[Car-Addicted]

Perez calls for inquiry over lack of Magnussen investigation
Sergio Perez says Red Bull should ask the FIA why the stewards did not deem his first-lap crash with Kevin Magnussen at the Monaco Grand Prix worthy of an investigation.
Magnussen is two penalty points away from an automatic one-race ban and was trying to pull alongside Perez on the climb out of Turn 1, but as the barrier follows the curvature of the road he hit Perez’s left-rear wheel and sent the Red Bull into a high-speed crash. Both Haas drivers were taken out along with Perez — whose car sustained huge damage and admits he “was a little bit shaky” afterward — but race control stated no further investigation was required.
While Magnussen claimed Perez didn’t leave him any room, the Red Bull driver says it was on the car behind to take avoiding action.

Perez says he isn’t surprised that Magnussen was taking such a risk despite being so close to a race ban, as he believes the potential consequences do not cross his mind.

https://racer.com/2024/05/26/perez-c...investigation/

Were the stewards giving Magnussen a break to avoid slapping a ban on him? Sure seems like Magnussen could use a time out after the past couple races. I'm sure Ayao Komatsu had a thought or two on the issue.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Charlie won't sleep much this night ...

Charlie ran a fantastic race ! He didn't steal this victory
Great job from Ferrari too

Lets face it he had it easy but a win is still a win, let's remember MAX leads by 31 points with Ferrari to do the work to challenge again.

I can't believe what Ocon did with his car flipping high up, you don't do that near your TM, it was very similar to LEW's take off at Spa when he encountered ALO.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah , right mate . That was so for the RB19 in 2023

Red Bull won't find a dynamic-functional RB20 setup for Montreal , just like in the last 3 races because it really s@cks ..

Did you see Lando's topspeed at Imola ?
Well that was like 343 km/h !
MAX was coming short with a top of 330 km/h

In other words : McLaren and Ferrari rule now ..
I'm not sure if Red Bull can fix the setup issues with that special RB20 design..

More ...(!)
The Red Bull Team can't upgrade the car before the never ending setup issues are fixed !
Ohhh well . That's great news for Ferrari and McLaren and who knows even for Mercedes !

So this is down to tongue twisting Wache who has taken over from Newey, it's up to him to sort this.

[EdM5]

Been following F1 since I was a kid in the 80s. Tbh I never ever saw a Monaco GP this boring. It used to be a thrill. 1 overtake? Are you kidding?
Happy for Charly though!

[Fillip]

Originally Posted by EdM5

Been following F1 since I was a kid in the 80s. Tbh I never ever saw a Monaco GP this boring. It used to be a thrill. 1 overtake? Are you kidding?
Happy for Charly though!

It was more like a Monaco Grand Parade than a Monaco Grand Prix.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

So this year’s drama as you wrote had nothing to do with the race. It was in qualifying. And I agree. That is the only drama for the F1 weekend. If that’s all the drama the race should go bye bye.

Yes, qualifying is also part of the drama.
The race in monaco consists of 4 parts: qualifying, race strategy (or better said: failure in race strategy), potential rain and crashes (go often hand in hand ).

So what lacks in that list is spectacular overtakes on track. If you expect that, just don't bother to watch.

What made the race itself spectacularly boring this year, is, like I said, that the red flag took away the mandatory pitstops, which means race strategy went out of the window. And with no rain, not much is left.