Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Z K

If there's any reason not to buy a Tesla it is because of that man. He is a terrible human being and has zero emotional intelligence.

For him it's all about the money and stroking his own ego.

Elon musk is the only reason why I would possibly consider buying a Tesla. The man is a complete total genius, and even if he was the biggest dumb ass on the planet I still like him for what he did with Twitter.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Z K

If there's any reason not to buy a Tesla it is because of that man. He is a terrible human being and has zero emotional intelligence.

For him it's all about the money and stroking his own ego.

I mean morals aside, dude is smart.

If he was able to run for presidency, I would 100000000% vote for him.

We need him in our lives!!!!’

[pbonsalb]

I don’t think Musk would turn down the job due to the pay — money is not his primary motivator. Musk is obviously very smart, but his intelligence is not the kind that would make a great leader. He does not want to deal with 435 representatives and 100 senators trying to get things done. I think he would be a terrible president and that he would hate the job.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I don’t think Musk would turn down the job due to the pay — money is not his primary motivator. Musk is obviously very smart, but his intelligence is not the kind that would make a great leader. He does not want to deal with 435 representatives and 100 senators trying to get things done. I think he would be a terrible president and that he would hate the job.

Like what we have is better lol.

I hope someone with the Elon mindset runs, that’ll be the FIRST time I ever voted.

We need Elon in our lives!!!!!!

[G30M]

EV below

[zx10guy]

In my opinion, the best politician is the one that doesn't want the job but performs the job because of their sense of patriotism and to do better for the community.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Elon musk is the only reason why I would possibly consider buying a Tesla. The man is a complete total genius, and even if he was the biggest dumb ass on the planet I still like him for what he did with Twitter.

That is exactly why I wouldn't. He completely screwed Twitter when he took over, fired all the staff and turned it into a zombie of a company. Not to mention the nonsense he spouts every day. Using his status and power to call people pedophiles and circle jerk with his buddies over inconsequential things and bang random girls when his wife isn't looking.

He has no morals and just looks after his own interests. I think of him as Trump but smart rather than dumb i.e. a complete asshole of a person.

The fact that he only listens to himself and can't work with others means he would be a terrible leader for a democratic society.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Z K

That is exactly why I wouldn't. He completely screwed Twitter when he took over, fired all the staff and turned it into a zombie of a company. Not to mention the nonsense he spouts every day. Using his status and power to call people pedophiles and circle jerk with his buddies over inconsequential things.

He has no morals and just looks after his own interests. I think of him as Trump but smart rather than dumb i.e. a complete asshole of a person.

Yeah, I know how some people don’t like an equal playing field when it comes to speech. I imagine some hate him pretty good. One-sided control at Twitter is over. Same thing needs to happen with YouTube, Instagram, and every other one-sided speech controlled social media outlet.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Yeah, I know how some people don’t like an equal playing field when it comes to speech. I imagine some hate him pretty good. One-sided control at Twitter is over. Same thing needs to happen with YouTube, Instagram, and every other one-sided speech controlled social media outlet.

It's not about equal speech, he's not into that. He's into his own speech over that of others. He doesn't care about left, right, up, down or whatever - he just cares about himself. That's his way of working.

He didn't like twitter for covering him so he buys out the company so now he has the whole thing to himself. He can spout all the nonsense he wants and if you disagree, you're out.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Z K

It's not about equal speech, he's not into that. He's into his own speech over that of others. He doesn't care about left, right, up, down or whatever - he just cares about himself. That's his way of working.

He didn't like twitter for covering him so he buys out the company so now he has the whole thing to himself. He can spout all the nonsense he wants and if you disagree, you're out.

I think you and I can just agree to disagree, sir.

In my personal opinion, 95% of the Twitter world is freaked the hell out because they’ve never had to deal with opposition speech before. At least speech that they couldn’t get kicked off the platform by reporting. Now they have to deal with it. It’s freaking wonderful. Like I said, I hope YouTube and Instagram and Facebook are next.

[KRS_SN]

Musk produced ugly inside and out cars that had little redeeming quality than it was light and more jelly blob aerodynamic hence was more efficient and could go longer and had a charger network and had a social media following ie basically sold overpriced junk that one could lease but Darent own at that price point to customers and I see these generic cars 3,Y like ants everywhere.
He filled a gap in the market and made people who invested in his shares millionaires became the richest guy for a while but if he wasn't in the picture perhaps normal responsible automakers would have brought in products that were more sustainable attractive durable had more features etc. Overall in my opinion I would steer clear of applauding him and wouldn't be caught dead owning any of his substandard curent offering appliances.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Musk produced ugly inside and out cars that had little redeeming quality than it was light and more jelly blob aerodynamic hence was more efficient and could go longer and had a charger network and had a social media following ie basically sold overpriced junk that one could lease but Darent own at that price point to customers and I see these generic cars 3,Y like ants everywhere.
He filled a gap in the market and made people who invested in his shares millionaires became the richest guy for a while but if he wasn't in the picture perhaps normal responsible automakers would have brought in products that were more sustainable attractive durable had more features etc. Overall in my opinion I would steer clear of applauding him and wouldn't be caught dead owning any of his substandard curent offering appliances.

I’m only applauding him for one thing really. Twitter. Although you still have to be impressed with what he did with Tesla. Unless, of course, for the most part, you hate capitalism then I can totally understand why you would dislike this man. I wouldn’t buy an Tesla either. I agree with you that they are Hella ugly outside and inside. All of them. I mean really ugly. But I’ve always thought that. Kind of like in the beginning all hybrids were really ugly. The good news is other manufacturers are coming out with good looking electric vehicles. Porsche and Audi already have a good looking electric vehicles. Others will follow.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I’m only applauding him for one thing really. Twitter. Although you still have to be impressed with what he did with Tesla. Unless, of course, for the most part, you hate capitalism then I can totally understand why you would dislike this man. I wouldn’t buy an Tesla either. I agree with you that they are Hella ugly outside and inside. All of them. I mean really ugly. But I’ve always thought that. Kind of like in the beginning all hybrids were really ugly. The good news is other know manufacturers are coming out with good looking electric vehicles. Porsche and Audi already have a good looking electric vehicles. Others will follow.

I'm not on twitter. I do appreciate that free speech isn't so free anymore so perhaps there is a deeper sentiment that I haven't learnt to appreciate.
I don't hate capitalism. As a consumer getting a great product at a great price is where I think it works.
Getting a substandard product at a high price off which the producer makes a 40% profit per sale and gets subsidies and credits etc and there is a government backed forced switch towards a product doesn't work for me. Its more anti capitalistic. But then maybe I'm wrong. Always open to hearing explanations from people who know of other viewpoints.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I'm not on twitter. I do appreciate that free speech isn't so free anymore so perhaps there is a deeper sentiment that I haven't learnt to appreciate.
I don't hate capitalism. As a consumer getting a great product at a great price is where I think it works.
Getting a substandard product at a high price off which the producer makes a 40% profit per sale and gets subsidies and credits etc and there is a government backed forced switch towards a product doesn't work for me. Its more anti capitalistic. But then maybe I'm wrong. Always open to hearing explanations from people who know of other viewpoints.

Actually, I can’t argue with anything you just said. You’re right. You’re absolutely right. His whole company has been government subsidized, and the entire electric vehicle industry has been forced upon us. That is not capitalism. That’s government and corporate cronyism.

I’m not really on Twitter either. Mostly because prior to Elon, it was a cesspool of one-sided thought. Anyone that tried to counter that thought was banned immediately. That’s over now. I thank Elon for that.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Actually, I can’t argue with anything you just said. You’re right. You’re absolutely right. His whole company has been government subsidized, and the entire electric vehicle industry has been forced upon us. That is not capitalism. That’s government and corporate cronyism.

I’m not really on Twitter either. Mostly because prior to Elon, it was a cesspool of one-sided thought. Anyone that tried to counter that thought was banned immediately. That’s over now. I thank Elon for that.

You make valid points as usual and thanks. I really want him to make a good looking car with a plush interior creature comforts sound insulation and head up display etc and one I can own for years as sustainability for me is owning a carfor a decade or more. At 60k plus that's what I want from a car.I really don't have anything against the man. Its the cars that I can't yet like despite driving them/being driven in them etc.

[Housekeeping]

I’m in love with my Tesla, will drive it before other, some would argue, better cars (M5, X5M). It’s quiet, stupid fast, looks great, great seats, awesome tech, not a peep of interior noise, just perfect. I think it looks great. Again, why can’t we all cheer on this AMERICAN company?

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

You make valid points as usual and thanks. I really want him to make a good looking car with a plush interior creature comforts sound insulation and head up display etc and one I can own for years as sustainability for me is owning a carfor a decade or more. At 60k plus that's what I want from a car.I really don't have anything against the man. Its the cars that I can't yet like despite driving them/being driven in them etc.

And Apple CarPlay man. I don’t care what manufacture it is I am out without that.

Check out Lucid man. Cool stuff.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Sy1616

I’m in love with my Tesla, will drive it before other, some would argue, better cars (M5, X5M). It’s quiet, stupid fast, looks great, great seats, awesome tech, not a peep of interior noise, just perfect. I think it looks great. Again, why can’t we all cheer on this AMERICAN company?

I believe we already told you why. We disagree with absolutely everything you said and think about the car, except for cheer on this American company. That I will agree with you on.

If you think about it, it really only matters that you like it. Right?

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Sy1616

I’m in love with my Tesla, will drive it before other, some would argue, better cars (M5, X5M). It’s quiet, stupid fast, looks great, great seats, awesome tech, not a peep of interior noise, just perfect. I think it looks great. Again, why can’t we all cheer on this AMERICAN company?

The GOLD STANDARD of performance.

I love my tesla too. Seats are the best. Super quiet, awesome tech and so comfortable!

Thank you Elon for these masterpieces!!!!!!

[Mason Hatcher]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I believe we already told you why. We disagree with absolutely everything you said and think about the car, except for cheer on this American company. That I will agree with you on.

If you think about it, it really only matters that you like it. Right?

We? You got a mouse in your pocket?

[Mason Hatcher]

Originally Posted by Sy1616

I’m in love with my Tesla, will drive it before other, some would argue, better cars (M5, X5M). It’s quiet, stupid fast, looks great, great seats, awesome tech, not a peep of interior noise, just perfect. I think it looks great. Again, why can’t we all cheer on this AMERICAN company?

Because "mah gasoline"

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Mason Hatcher

We? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Perhaps, if you had read a few postings before mine, sarcasm wouldn’t have been the first thing to pop in your mind as a rebuttal. It’s not your strong suit by the way. Hopefully you have other social attributes.