BMW mystery mule. What do you think this is?! [Update: BMW Z3 undergoing testing]

x5love · 12-16-2014, 02:27 PM

So all of this work to organize the lineup into even numbers - coupes and odd numbers - sedans, was for nothing?

Roundown · 12-16-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by x5love

So all of this work to organize the lineup into even numbers - coupes and odd numbers - sedans, was for nothing?

Who cares- drop the S55 into this thing and giddy up.

yousefnjr · 12-16-2014, 04:39 PM

So this means there's going to be a z3 coupe? Not just roadster?

Harold Wood · 12-16-2014, 05:10 PM

Forget the Z3 I love this BMW rod

http://www.rogerlighternessart.co.uk/

BMWZ4RIDER · 12-16-2014, 06:18 PM

My guess. As all the 2 and 4 door cojupe and sedan series seem to be getting larger, this is the new M1 Series launch.

RingMeister01 · 12-16-2014, 08:42 PM

A new Z3 deserves a unique front and rear end, not just a chopped 235i (I do like the looks though).

This could just be the beginning.

aajami · 12-16-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

So this means there's going to be a z3 coupe? Not just roadster?

That's what Scott has hinted. Z3 would be the roadster, and Z4 would be its coupe equivalent (or is it vice versa?)

Same with the Z1:Z2 and Z5:Z6.

shatty · 12-17-2014, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

No it is not the F22 Chassis underneath which is why the body is shortened.
For more clues let us say that Winter is coming...
But this prototype also shows possibilities for the M2.

AWD Z3?

BMW269 · 12-17-2014, 03:22 PM

Maybe the car the world has been waiting for...

TT-Tom · 12-17-2014, 04:05 PM

i don't see a rear diff.... my vote is fwd pile...

JasonCSU · 12-17-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TT-Tom

i don't see a rear diff.... my vote is fwd pile...

It's there. You just have to look closer.

JasonCSU · 12-17-2014, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

A new Z3 deserves a unique front and rear end, not just a chopped 235i (I do like the looks though).

This could just be the beginning.

The chopped 235 bodywork is just to disguise it as a test mule.

Boss330 · 12-17-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I posted this long ago. There is another article I am still looking for.

"The Z4 becomes the Z5 and will share with a Toyota as will a Z3 Both are RWD.
The engineering schematics for the Carbon intensive architecture is impressive. You are going to see so much for so little with the combined force of BMW and Toyota using all their resources available.

BMW wants to re-invent its Z series sports cars and make them as cutting edge and influential as the BMWi models by visual appearance and state of the art engineering to highlight a new BMW philosophy for sports cars.

Vision ConnectedDrive and 328 Homage concepts are the template for the visuals. Plans also include a slightly massaged three cylinder entirely unique and exclusive in the Z3 Mille Miglia mimicking the classic 328 to provide excellent dynamics using lightweight materials."

Auto Motor & Sport claims the test mule is what will eventually become the Z2.

They say it's based on the Mini chassis with transverse engine and FWD. Hence the shortened wheelbase.

http://m.auto-motor-und-sport.de/new...t-8969364.html

x5love · 12-18-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

That's what Scott has hinted. Z3 would be the roadster, and Z4 would be its coupe equivalent (or is it vice versa?)

Same with the Z1:Z2 and Z5:Z6.

Well, if the odd numbers are fixed hardtops and the even numbers are cloth/metal verts then I could see it making a bit more sense.

Otherwise they're just upended a lot of time, money and PR from the past decade.

thorsen82 · 12-19-2014, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss330

Auto Motor & Sport claims the test mule is what will eventually become the Z2.

They say it's based on the Mini chassis with transverse engine and FWD. Hence the shortened wheelbase.

http://m.auto-motor-und-sport.de/new...t-8969364.html

That mule don't seems to be fwd .. Look at brake's calipers position

hk401 · 12-20-2014, 02:51 PM

it look like a camry

Kiwi · 12-20-2014, 08:19 PM

It does look so much better the 2 series. It has to be front wheel drive due to the extra front end and having the short tail it will be a roadster.

Aapparition90 · 12-20-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

It does look so much better the 2 series. It has to be front wheel drive due to the extra front end and having the short tail it will be a roadster.

We are talking about a bmw here man not audis or vw

Kiwi · 12-21-2014, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 328ihp

We are talking about a bmw here man not audis or vw

I am talking about BMW their will be nothing below the 3 series in rear wheel drive in 4 years which is such a same.

I hope BMW is not manufacturing a hard top convertible roadster

Pietro · 01-02-2015, 03:14 PM

I think its this!!

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mini/89...new-sports-car

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