F1 2024: US GP - Austin (Oct 20)

[fs1977]

If you wanted to cheat, why is the component involved mentioned in the open source component document? As always, it's all about interpretation of the rules. I think it has zero impact on track performance and might be more a tool to make the life of the mechanics a bit easier during testing and FP's.

And to be fair, there wasn't really any trackperformance to begin with the last couple of months

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

Schumacher - Benetton engineers gave him traction control when traction control was illegal to the dismay of Senna

Brawn was more than amazing. He bought the team for $1 in preseason, did the double diffuser, Jensen Button won something like 10 races in a row before it got banned, then Jensen didn't win another race but did enough damage to be world champion. I think since then teams realized if they don't stop their competitors early it will be too late once they run away with the points. Unless you're McLaren and you don't know who you're racing.

With just a wagging finger pre race from FIA is it any wonder that teams push the boundaries. FIA sanctioned stewards can't strip a car down to the last nut and bolt to check if it's running some sort of flap even after a race if the measurements are positive ? McLaren themselves were visibly cheating and nothing happened keeping their points.

[M5Rick]

As far as Bottas is concerned I'm thinking that he should remain partnering HUL for '25 even though he hasn't scored a single point so far this season. Mick S vying for the drive is just too much of a wild card with his recent history and Collapinto is just a flash in the pan too early, the car itself is the rogue that can't be pushed far. Binotto should go for experience and long standing know how than getting in youngsters that could likely push up crash bills.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...91bAcHTEVsOlBX

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by CMW33

Right. The teams at the front are the ones who are innovating and pushing the boundaries, or sometimes exceeding them:

BrawnGP - double diffuser
Red Bull - exhaust blown diffuser
Ferrari - fuel flow
Mercedes - DAS
McLaren - mini-DRS

The list goes on...

Yeah . The list goes on ... Mercedes ?

DAS - The Party-Mode - The Smoking Brake Magic - Flexible wings - ect...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

As far as Bottas is concerned I'm thinking that he should remain partnering HUL for '25 even though he hasn't scored a single point so far this season. Mick S vying for the drive is just too much of a wild card with his recent history and Collapinto is just a flash in the pan too early, the car itself is the rogue that can't be pushed far. Binotto should go for experience and long standing know how than getting in youngsters that could likely push up crash bills.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...91bAcHTEVsOlBX

LEW in cowboy look at COTA ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . The list goes on ... Mercedes ?

DAS - The Party-Mode - The Smoking Brake Magic - Flexible wings - ect...

If RB did have some sort of party mode of their own on, and lets remember that Merc were allowed to keep their party mode on for many races then FIA could always put cameras on the 20 ( Like they did on a few wings to check bendiness but only in an advising way) to check if there's any disparity in the ride height between quali and race...in an advising way only. Even Stevens my friend.

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;31560065]LEW in cowboy look at COTA ...

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Checo only says things with Slim's money meaning backing, at the end of the day Horner could just say sorry mate but here are your cards and move to Vcarb where you'll be more useful and Yuki can bring in ton of money being king of Japan and Honda yeah Honda engines still for '25.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...MMamgwF5trAZAd

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by fs1977

If you wanted to cheat, why is the component involved mentioned in the open source component document? As always, it's all about interpretation of the rules. I think it has zero impact on track performance and might be more a tool to make the life of the mechanics a bit easier during testing and FP's.

And to be fair, there wasn't really any trackperformance to begin with the last couple of months

Agreed. It was in the schematics sent to the FIA. Given all of the data and analytics, if there was something going on, they'd have known about it a long time ago.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

LEW in cowboy look at COTA ...

Yea Ha !

[MoeTE87]

Can't come soon enough! Can't believe I am this excited for just practice...we talking about practice!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MoeTE87

Can't come soon enough! Can't believe I am this excited for just practice...we talking about practice!

Well my friend , the COTA practice starts in 60 min.

#UnLeashTheLion (!)

[MoeTE87]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend , the COTA practice starts in 60 min.

#UnLeashTheLion (!)

10 mins! Woooooo

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

With just a wagging finger pre race from FIA is it any wonder that teams push the boundaries. FIA sanctioned stewards can't strip a car down to the last nut and bolt to check if it's running some sort of flap even after a race if the measurements are positive ? McLaren themselves were visibly cheating and nothing happened keeping their points.

=> https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...in_parc_ferme/

[G30M]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

If RB did have some sort of party mode of their own on, and lets remember that Merc were allowed to keep their party mode on for many races then FIA could always put cameras on the 20 ( Like they did on a few wings to check bendiness but only in an advising way) to check if there's any disparity in the ride height between quali and race...in an advising way only. Even Stevens my friend.

party mode is still a thing. as long as it's not a separate map. in the past they had race map and a maxed out quali map.

now teams build the map as maxed out as the standard (for overtake and quali etc), and cut fuel during race to "save fuel"

problem solved. this is the easiest rule to overcome IMO.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

=> https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...in_parc_ferme/

Chas and LEW were DSQ from this race last year.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

give a point for pole

[MontyB1]

It’s hilarious that much of the vitriol is against solutions that are entirely legal.

DAS - other could have followed it but they changed the rules - legal
Party Model - they could at the time all do it completely legal
Flexi wings - they put tests in most teams made changes legal
Brake magic - still fitted heats the brakes for restarts nice innovation - legal

Ferrari fuel - they got caught behind the scenes agreement should have been more, performance fell through the floor - illegal
Part ferme changes - there a set list mostly driver comfort related of what you can change and everything else you can’t. Touch a car in parc ferme to change settings that’s a pitlane start / disqualification plain and simple. If it wasn’t Red Bull and (we all know it was) why now a seal if they never changed it. Smoke and fire much….

The kids aren’t happy about facts but there they are, innovation is great and most teams get these things approved by the FIA even if other teams don’t understand what they have created.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Chas and LEW were DSQ from this race last year.

Result Free practice 1 - United States

[G30M]

Originally Posted by MoeTE87

Can't come soon enough! Can't believe I am this excited for just practice...we talking about practice!

Summary FP1: Piastri's car painted by the Joker

[HeelToeShift]

FP1 the RB looked very on point and quick from the first lap. The fact that Max's quali lap was done well before the track rubbered in and was still not far off the Ferrari's (who also run higher engine mode) speaks well. The MB and Mclarens looked quite a bit off balance almost the entire session (ham nearly took out a Haas, and Nor/Pia/Rus all had lot what would be track violations and near spins). Let's see if Mclaren ends up being even cockier than usual and downgrading performance by trying to pile on downforce - couldnt happen to a team more deserving.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Chas and LEW were DSQ from this race last year.

By the looks of how much Ham's car was sparking, esp when he spun, he might get DSQ'd this year too.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

By the looks of how much Ham's car was sparking, esp when he spun, he might get DSQ'd this year too.

I hear the new COTA track asphalt layer hasn't improved the bumps ?

Checo P16 ?!?!