First Look: 2025 Porsche 911 GT3

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The NA, RWD and stick factor is huge. Is there anything else? Like at ANY price, can you get a NA 450HP+ engine, with a stick and RWD in anything let alone a) a car that weighs less than 3500lbs and b) one that revs past 8 grand?

I don't think you can?

murcielago - old, heavy, poor dynamics, $$ to maintain.

F430 / Gallardo / R8 v10 -- old. these would probably the closest to a GT3 but their dynamics are far behind a 992, let alone a 991 carrera.

5th gen viper - great performance and light. the lack of rpm isn't a big deal since the powerband is huge. but its dodge build quality.

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The NA, RWD and stick factor is huge. Is there anything else? Like at ANY price, can you get a NA 450HP+ engine, with a stick and RWD in anything let alone a) a car that weighs less than 3500lbs and b) one that revs past 8 grand?

I don't think you can?

And from Germany

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The NA, RWD and stick factor is huge. Is there anything else? Like at ANY price, can you get a NA 450HP+ engine, with a stick and RWD in anything let alone a) a car that weighs less than 3500lbs and b) one that revs past 8 grand?

I don't think you can?

Mustang GT. Weighs a bit more and I think they only rev to 7500ish stock. But you get SO MUCH POWER for the money. Want 800hp? Bolt on a Whipple kit for under $10k.

If you're not talking brand new there's a whole host of Corvettes that fit that bill. No backseat in those. Camaro does the same, but with worse everything. They don't rev nearly that high, in the 6000s, but they don't need to. Big , fat powerbands with torque everywhere. And they respond to bolt on mods really really well.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Mustang GT. Weighs a bit more and I think they only rev to 7500ish stock. But you get SO MUCH POWER for the money. Want 800hp? Bolt on a Whipple kit for under $10k.

If you're not talking brand new there's a whole host of Corvettes that fit that bill. No backseat in those. Camaro does the same, but with worse everything. They don't rev nearly that high, in the 6000s, but they don't need to. Big , fat powerbands with torque everywhere. And they respond to bolt on mods really really well.

But then you’d still have a Mustang or Camaro.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

But then you’d still have a Mustang or Camaro.

Yeah if you really want the Porsche guys to talk down to you, show up in a domestic, lol.

Some PCA events they won't even let you on track with them in a domestic (or any non Porsche) even if you own a Porsche.

[Alfisti]

I meant new so to me Mustang is out as it is just a million miles from a GT3 dynamics wise, not on the same planet. And I say that as someone who cross shopped a PP2 stang vs my 997 so I am a GT Mustang fan.

I think the answer is Corvette for the key ingredients of stick, RWD and 400+ HP. I forgot about the vette! TBh that's the nearest thing no?

It's a crying shame the 911 GTS went turbo charged in 2017, it was basically a better street car than a GT3 with the same ingredients of stick, rwd and screaming engine from 2011 to 2016.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Mustang GT. Weighs a bit more and I think they only rev to 7500ish stock. But you get SO MUCH POWER for the money. Want 800hp? Bolt on a Whipple kit for under $10k.

If you're not talking brand new there's a whole host of Corvettes that fit that bill. No backseat in those. Camaro does the same, but with worse everything. They don't rev nearly that high, in the 6000s, but they don't need to. Big , fat powerbands with torque everywhere. And they respond to bolt on mods really really well.

It doesn't weigh a bit more, it weighs a lot more...and somehow it weighs even more than a Camaro.