First Look: 2025 Porsche 911 GT3

[Donut Lord]

[dgoldenz]

$225k base price. 992.1 GT3 started at $161k 3 years ago...Porsche keeping that ADM money for themselves now, bad day for Porsche dealers. Can't see a 992.2 being a $275k car when a 991.2 is $160-200k

[M5Rick]

Agree that GT3 is going into hyperdrive with its pricing for this and only for specially selected buyers probably.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

$225k base price. 992.1 GT3 started at $161k 3 years ago...Porsche keeping that ADM money for themselves now, bad day for Porsche dealers. Can't see a 992.2 being a $275k car when a 991.2 is $160-200k

Yeah, but the sad thing is that people will pay their asking prices and more . Porsche knows that, that's why they ask ridiculous money for their cars now. Porsche wants to be the new Ferrari, but with higher production numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/live/8od07dj...ICkgIWJ57urEiq

[BlkGS]

Porsche pricing in general has reached gouging levels. Porsche is absolutely keeping the ADM money for themselves, and then dealers tack on an ADM anyways because suckers will pay it, lol.

[chassis]

This car creates hope for all of humanity.

Thankfully VAG still knows what a car is

[Alfisti]

Price wise I don't understand it because there is no shortage of 992.1 GT3 on lots either new or slightly used.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Price wise I don't understand it because there is no shortage of 992.1 GT3 on lots either new or slightly used.

Yeah but they’re all $30-75k over MSRP used. Porsche is just taking those ADMs and pocketing it instead.

[Alfisti]

Yeah 200K+ easily looking at it, damn.

I'd be looking at a 997 gt3 then, save a whack of cash and get a really analog car

[Humdizzle]

used 992.1 cars with low miles and good options are going for 220-240. Tourings are 260. 991.2 are getting 10-20 over sticker depending on spec. Tourings 220. Porsche is essentially trying to keep ADM for themselves. If people still pay ADM, they will just raise the price again next year.

https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/992-gt3/

i am curious to see how much ADM can be charged though. some guy on reddit called his local dealers in washington and they want 75k adm. making it a 300k car before options.

[x622]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

used 992.1 cars with low miles and good options are going for 220-240. Tourings are 260. 991.2 are getting 10-20 over sticker depending on spec. Tourings 220. Porsche is essentially trying to keep ADM for themselves. If people still pay ADM, they will just raise the price again next year.

https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/992-gt3/

i am curious to see how much ADM can be charged though. some guy on reddit called his local dealers in washington and they want 75k adm. making it a 300k car before options.

I really don't understand the market. At 200k and how they used to be like yours, it makes sense. It was a drivers car. These new ones are not. I've driven the 992 3RS back to back versus a 750... No comparison. I don't even care to pursue a 2RS because of the stupid ADM that dealers want to charge. Don't even have to pay that much markup on Ferraris or Lambos. Even dumber if you're actually a track rat instead of a poseur spec 3rs you'll just get a cup car...


Look at the drivers of these new gen 992's, they aren't even car guys that push their cars anymore, it's... people like the GM of Arrowhead BMW here in Phoenix. He goes 5 under and is terrified of his regular GT3. He goes to cars and coffee to show all his buddies, but doesn't drive anything.

[Alfisti]

Hence the 997 idea, plenty of power for the street and it's old school Porsche drivers car but morn enough not to shit itself every few months.

The 992 feels to me more like a supercar that is less connected.

[x622]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Hence the 997 idea, plenty of power for the street and it's old school Porsche drivers car but morn enough not to shit itself every few months.

The 992 feels to me more like a supercar that is less connected.

That's exactly how I'd describe it too! It's numb and vague, even the 3rs. To say it's not brutally fast is obviously a bold faced lie, but it's not "fun" to drive. It's not rewarding to beat the absolute shit out of, because you have to just to feel ANYTHING. The 997.1 and .2 were the last of it's kind, I think. I want to add one of them to my collection but not sure what.

I will say that the the GT4RS somehow feels better than the the GT3. Wish I could get my hands on one with that crazy engine build and shorter gear ratio setup. Bet it's pretty sweet.

All these car manufacturers make me feel sad.
I can't be a modern Porsche enthusiast anymore since I don't enjoy the smell of my own farts.
I can't be a modern BMW enthusiast because everything I've cared about the brand is dead with the exception of the s58.
I can't be a modern Honda enthusiast because they make dumb shit like the CTR that costs as much as a M2 basically, and they're too scared to make another s2000 or NSX that's worth a shit.
I can't be a modern Chevy enthusiast because the Corvette gets worse every generation now, and the ZL1 1LE is dead.
I can't be a modern Ferrari enthusiast because they put v6's in their top end models now (F80) and they make stuff like the 296GTB is a which is a cope-mobile.

Sad times to be a car guy I guess. If I want to go really really fast in a straight line I guess it's great, but if I want to turn and enjoy how the car feels and communicates I'm SOL. Buy all the old cars you can I guess....

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by x622

I really don't understand the market. At 200k and how they used to be like yours, it makes sense. It was a drivers car. These new ones are not. I've driven the 992 3RS back to back versus a 750... No comparison. I don't even care to pursue a 2RS because of the stupid ADM that dealers want to charge. Don't even have to pay that much markup on Ferraris or Lambos. Even dumber if you're actually a track rat instead of a poseur spec 3rs you'll just get a cup car...


Look at the drivers of these new gen 992's, they aren't even car guys that push their cars anymore, it's... people like the GM of Arrowhead BMW here in Phoenix. He goes 5 under and is terrified of his regular GT3. He goes to cars and coffee to show all his buddies, but doesn't drive anything.

yup alot of the market has gone to speculation and flipping. People want a car they can drive for free but show off to others. its gone from a drivers car to an art piece.

i think the ferrari/lambo market is different. at 300k people know they are just getting a 'regular' model and are cool with the depreciation. But there is still the 'speciale/pista/tdf' markets which require special dealer relations like porsche.