Michelin Pilot AS4's, doable for winter if you can pick your battles??

[David70]

Originally Posted by bucketfoot

That's the key thing... you cannot control the vast majority of emergency situations. The ability to stop and change direction is everything.

I recommend avoiding all emergency situations and accidents, just seems like the wise thing to do.

[c1pher]

I drive my AS4s all seasons but I’m also not stupid. I take my truck if the weather is overly crappy.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

its the sudden braking and turning that will get you.

That's kinda my argument for running quality all seasons in a place with moderate winters where temps are routinely 15 to 45 degrees, sub 30" total snow falls (typically 1" to 3" snow events), rarely snow on the streets except a day or so after a snow event, etc.

I've had winter tires and they are pretty damn good in sub 4" snow and extreme sub zero cold, but once temps get above 35 degrees or so, winter tire traction degrades. Even worse with true snow tires. Handling and braking are negatively affected and it gets almost dangerous above 50. That's why I run quality all seasons in the Kansas City which has moderate winters and temps usually 20-45 degrees. If there is snow on all the streets, I won't take my all season-equipped cars out unless I absolutely need to. I'm not afraid to drive in light snow, rather it's the other drivers I don't trust. There are very few reasons that I must be out in the snow and if I must go, I'll take my wife's 4Runner unless of course I got stuck in a situation where it snowed while I was out in my M235 or Cayman. That would be odd as I watch the weather fairly closely on my phone.

[Alfisti]

OP lives downtown Toronto, he ain't going fucking nowhere if it properly snows, and I mean fucking nowhere. The traffic will be at a standstill. The roads are flat, arrow straight and plowed and TBH it has barely snowed the last 7 or so winters out of the last 10. Literally all you need winter tyres for here is stop signs to help with braking.