New Ytest
Sign out
Bimmerpost
Login
BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts  
Go Back   BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Cosmetic Care & Detailing (PPF/Wash/Wax/Detailing/Restoration/Repairs)

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-14-2023, 07:39 PM   #1
Stinger77
Enlisted Member
46
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: Kia Stinger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (0)

I think i got a lemon paint

I saw today that the paint in the front and back bumper do not match exactly the same color to the body panels of the car, any one knows if I got a lemon car in terms of paint? Is this normal?
body panel looks blue but the bumper looks more like light bluish purple. This is a Tanzanite Blue M4 G82 new!
Thank you guys.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2023, 08:22 PM   #2
nerdogray
Captain
1472
Rep
721
Posts

 
Drives: Beater
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: TN

iTrader: (0)

That's horrible. I'm guessing body work done at port, with a bad job at paint matching? Doesn't even look like the same level of "speckly sparkles." I don't know the technical term. Curious what others might recommend to resolve, because I would be pissed.
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2023, 08:29 PM   #3
Tobstertx3
Banned
221
Rep
260
Posts

 
Drives: 2024 BMW M3
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Katy, TX

iTrader: (0)

Completely agree, something is definitely not right there. Does it look worse in the sun light?
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2023, 08:30 PM   #4
Stinger77
Enlisted Member
46
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: Kia Stinger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobstertx3 View Post
Completely agree, something is definitely not right there. Does it look worse in the sun light?
It looks the same under any bright light.
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2023, 08:33 PM   #5
Tobstertx3
Banned
221
Rep
260
Posts

 
Drives: 2024 BMW M3
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Katy, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger77 View Post
It looks the same under any bright light.
Oh man, I feel for you. I’d be so mad, firstly for not being told of the damage, secondly of what you’re going to have to go through to get it right. If it is in fact what it seems.
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2023, 08:50 PM   #6
Car-Addicted
Colonel
Car-Addicted's Avatar
United_States
8236
Rep
2,377
Posts

 
Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Central PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW M4 CS  [9.91]
I would pick up a Paint Thickness Meter and test the surfaces and if what everyone thinks is correct you will have ammunition to have a talk with your dealer. Sorry this happened. We all get so excited to play with our new toys that we forget the importance of a through inspection. Don't feel bad we have all done it.
Appreciate 3
      11-14-2023, 09:29 PM   #7
Stinger77
Enlisted Member
46
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: Kia Stinger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Car-Addicted View Post
I would pick up a Paint Thickness Meter and test the surfaces and if what everyone thinks is correct you will have ammunition to have a talk with your dealer. Sorry this happened. We all get so excited to play with our new toys that we forget the importance of a through inspection. Don't feel bad we have all done it.
Thank you so much! Its a great idea.
Appreciate 1
      11-14-2023, 10:13 PM   #8
arucano
Captain
arucano's Avatar
United_States
262
Rep
648
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 M6 Grand Coupe CP
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Kingwood TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 BMW M6 GC  [10.00]
What is generally not revealed is that at the port of entry, cars are checked for damage and in a case like this, the damaged part is repainted. If you bought this new, that is a possibility. If you bought it used, it is likely that the bumper was repainted by previous owner.
__________________
F06 M6 Grand Coupe CP
Sapphire Black Metallic
The drive is the destination
Appreciate 1
      11-14-2023, 10:47 PM   #9
Stinger77
Enlisted Member
46
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: Kia Stinger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by arucano View Post
What is generally not revealed is that at the port of entry, cars are checked for damage and in a case like this, the damaged part is repainted. If you bought this new, that is a possibility. If you bought it used, it is likely that the bumper was repainted by previous owner.
How to know if it was repainted?
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2023, 11:11 PM   #10
DanG
Major General
DanG's Avatar
United_States
11462
Rep
7,147
Posts

 
Drives: 2018 M2 AW DCT
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2018 BMW M2  [8.01]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger77 View Post
How to know if it was repainted?
Had to repainted to fade to different colors. If you bought it new have the dealer fix it. If you bought it used you will have to pay a body shop to fix it.
__________________
BMWCCA member Puget Sound Chapter
Appreciate 0
      11-15-2023, 06:10 PM   #11
arucano
Captain
arucano's Avatar
United_States
262
Rep
648
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 M6 Grand Coupe CP
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Kingwood TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 BMW M6 GC  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger77 View Post
How to know if it was repainted?
It is just a question of who and when it was re-painted as to what your options are.
__________________
F06 M6 Grand Coupe CP
Sapphire Black Metallic
The drive is the destination
Appreciate 0
      11-15-2023, 06:25 PM   #12
TboneS54
YNWA
TboneS54's Avatar
United_States
1197
Rep
907
Posts

 
Drives: '04 M3 6MT, '11 M3 DCT, '22 X7
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (2)

The paint can look a little different purely because it was laid on a plastic bumper versus metal body panel.

It wouldn't be conclusive to say that the bumper was resprayed a later point just by looking at it.

Ultimately, a plastic part like a bumper isn't that important whereas the metal body parts are.
__________________
/// 2004 Silvergrey M3 · Coupe · 6MT · Slicktop · zero options
/// 2011 Jerez/Bamboo E90 M3 · DCT · Slicktop · IG: @na.s54
Appreciate 6
BigHunk285.00
DocL2105.50
2M507.50
      11-15-2023, 06:47 PM   #13
Car-Addicted
Colonel
Car-Addicted's Avatar
United_States
8236
Rep
2,377
Posts

 
Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Central PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW M4 CS  [9.91]
Matching paint is a art, especially metallics.
The easier part is color match, repair would be likely a factory pack (same paint as BMW factory, BASF I suspect.)
The harder is to match metallic. Many things control how the metallic's lay. Thinner, pressure, gun set up, painter choice of distance and pattern/overlap, temperature. Like I said it's an art.
Third is match is texture (orange peal)
My shop did dealer work for the local Mercedes dealer in the 70's. I still have nightmares about matching Astral Silver Metallic

So between a paint thickness meter and a hand held sun light you should be able to tell what was painted.

IMO I always prefer to paint as little as possible as I have never felt that after market paints are not as durable as factory applied paint. (many a painter bar argument has started over that. It is common to blend paint on adjacent panels to fool the eye. Only you can decide if that is acceptable to you when you repair. Good luck
Appreciate 1
      11-15-2023, 06:52 PM   #14
TheMidnightNarwhal
Major General
TheMidnightNarwhal's Avatar
Canada
2815
Rep
6,387
Posts

 
Drives: 11' 335is DCT
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Gatineau, Quebec

iTrader: (0)

Maybe it's just me but to me the reason why your picture shows such a difference is that your beam of light is on the top part and not he bottom. And well metallic paint kind of does that under bright lights.

Like if you look at the corner section where it meets the taillight, you can see with no light it looks pretty close?
Appreciate 1
      11-15-2023, 06:57 PM   #15
nunzo
Peanut Butter and Jelly
nunzo's Avatar
869
Rep
435
Posts

 
Drives: germans
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: PA/CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
1994 BMW 318i  [10.00]
2023 BMW M3  [10.00]
1997 BMW M3  [10.00]
1994 BMW M3  [9.87]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TboneS54 View Post
The paint can look a little different purely because it was laid on a plastic bumper versus metal body panel.

It wouldn't be conclusive to say that the bumper was resprayed a later point just by looking at it.

Ultimately, a plastic part like a bumper isn't that important whereas the metal body parts are.

This is the correct answer. BMW paint doesn’t match great between metal and plastic panels. I was going to do Macau Blue but pics of it on a G80 showed a huge variation between the panels. I asked my contact at BMW Individual about this and they said if something like that would bother me, avoid certain colors (Macau Blue being one of them).
Appreciate 1
      11-15-2023, 07:16 PM   #16
Stinger77
Enlisted Member
46
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: Kia Stinger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (0)

I decided to live with the miss match don't want any one touch my baby, thanks for the reply. I can always wrap the whole car and pretend is not there.
Appreciate 2
      11-15-2023, 07:19 PM   #17
Car-Addicted
Colonel
Car-Addicted's Avatar
United_States
8236
Rep
2,377
Posts

 
Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Central PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW M4 CS  [9.91]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger77 View Post
I decided to live with the miss match
Wise call
Appreciate 1
      11-15-2023, 09:15 PM   #18
Stinger77
Enlisted Member
46
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: Kia Stinger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Car-Addicted View Post
Wise call
Yep imagine the nightmare of leaving my new baby with dirty greasy paint techs who have a huge temptation to dive the car like they stole it and on top of that getting the car with even worse miss match pain.
Appreciate 0
      11-16-2023, 02:29 AM   #19
Car-Addicted
Colonel
Car-Addicted's Avatar
United_States
8236
Rep
2,377
Posts

 
Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Central PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW M4 CS  [9.91]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinger77 View Post
Yep imagine the nightmare of leaving my new baby with dirty greasy paint techs who have a huge temptation to dive the car like they stole it
Hey we were those "dirty greasy paint techs" and we worked on cars a hell of a lot more expensive and faster that any street BMW's.
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:29 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST