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[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

I still didn't get the X3 sold yet.

Somehow, me and 48-gabillion others were on the line with BMWFA yesterday because we received a notice our payment was late. F-ME! I electronically transferred to you back on 6/17! Send us a screen shot. But, I need a payoff amount, so I can sell this thing off!!!!!

Pull it online.

[cmyx6go]

Sooo, SA just called. He said that a bolt to the drive shaft got elongated after the previous repair and pretty much broke off. It scratched/damaged the heat panels. They have to replace the Giubo and drop the exhaust to check it out but think it's only cosmetic damage. Parts are due in tomorrow and it should be ready by Friday. I don't know if I care.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Sooo, SA just called. He said that a bolt to the drive shaft got elongated after the previous repair and pretty much broke off. It scratched/damaged the heat panels. They have to replace the Giubo and drop the exhaust to check it out but think it's only cosmetic damage. Parts are due in tomorrow and it should be ready by Friday. I don't know if I care.

How many days total has your vehicle been in the shop?

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

How many days total has your vehicle been in the shop?

The first time I was in for one day - they blamed a failed remote software update

25 days - 2nd time. Got towed in Tuesday May 31st, picked up Friday June 24th

This will be a 5 day thing I believe. They said I should be done Friday.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

They have to replace the Giubo and drop the exhaust to check it out but think it's only cosmetic damage.

Italian engineering on a German car?!?!?!?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

The first time I was in for one day - they blamed a failed remote software update

25 days - 2nd time. Got towed in Tuesday May 31st, picked up Friday June 24th

This will be a 5 day thing I believe. They said I should be done Friday.

I believe 30 days is where you can make a solid lemon law case, so …..wait until you can pick up the car before dropping the buy-back bomb on them.

It's actually 15 days in NY:

https://ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds/us...law-fact-sheet

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I believe 30 days is where you can make a solid lemon law case, so …..wait until you can pick up the car before dropping the buy-back bomb on them.

I don't know how I feel about this. The fact that a bolt broke and it wasn't some other crazy issue kind of issue makes me feel better EXCEPT shouldn't the bolt thing have been caught when they were putting it back together last time? I just don't know....

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

I don't know how I feel about this. The fact that a bolt broke and it wasn't some other crazy issue kind of issue makes me feel better EXCEPT shouldn't the bolt thing have been caught when they were putting it back together last time? I just don't know....

Don't second guess yourself. You have every right at this stage to start the buy-back conversation. Don't allow any dealership exec to minimize the inconvenience and impact of your feelings of safety with the vehicle. Stand your ground.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Italian engineering on a German car?!?!?!?

He spelled it for me

A giubo, also known as a flex disc, and sometimes misspelled as guibo, is a flexible coupling used to transmit rotational torque between the drive shaft and the companion flange on mechanical devices, such as an automobile engine.

But I guess you already know what it is.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Don't second guess yourself. You have every right at this stage to start the buy-back conversation. Don't allow any dealership exec to minimize the inconvenience and impact of your feelings of safety with the vehicle. Stand your ground.

I agree.

Unless she really likes the vehicle. Maybe that will be the last problem. If she likes it why not wait and see? Sounds like it was a small thing.

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Sooo, SA just called. He said that a bolt to the drive shaft got elongated after the previous repair and pretty much broke off. It scratched/damaged the heat panels. They have to replace the Giubo and drop the exhaust to check it out but think it's only cosmetic damage. Parts are due in tomorrow and it should be ready by Friday. I don't know if I care.

The guibo broke? Lmao, what the fuck are they doing?

As far as I know you generally replace the guibo every 10-15 years, if not more. The fact that it broke is kind of ridiculous...

Also: what was the last repair? I must've missed the mark on that. But basically (not sure if you know) the guibo is basically the middle man between the transmission and your driveshaft. Did they remove the transmission/engine last time you were in there? Incorrectly torquing that alone is worthy of causing a scene, which I would recommend. If my guibo broke after a repair at the dealer I'm either getting them to buy back the car or getting it repaired and driving straight to carvana/carfax.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Don't second guess yourself. You have every right at this stage to start the buy-back conversation. Don't allow any dealership exec to minimize the inconvenience and impact of your feelings of safety with the vehicle. Stand your ground.

If this was another fishing expedition with all the crazy tech and stuff, I wouldn't hesitate to fight to get out of it. I guess my question is, being that it was a bolt, albeit a possible mechanic screw up, is it still a safety issue? I'd really appreciate any feedback from you guys.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Turkish Pickle

The guibo broke? Lmao, what the fuck are they doing?

As far as I know you generally replace the guibo every 10-15 years, if not more. The fact that it broke is kind of ridiculous...

Also: what was the last repair? I must've missed the mark on that. But basically (not sure if you know) the guibo is basically the middle man between the transmission and your driveshaft. Did they remove the transmission/engine last time you were in there? Incorrectly torquing that alone is worthy of causing a scene, which I would recommend. If my guibo broke after a repair at the dealer I'm either getting them to buy back the car or getting it repaired and driving straight to carvana/carfax.

They replaced the Valvetronic Unit and the eccentric shaft.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

If this was another fishing expedition with all the crazy tech and stuff, I wouldn't hesitate to fight to get out of it. I guess my question is, being that it was a bolt, albeit a possible mechanic screw up, is it still a safety issue? I'd really appreciate any feedback from you guys.

I have never personally lemoned a car or requested the buy-back, but friends have successfully done it. The closest I've ever come to a vehicle replacement was when my '03 E46 ///M3 motor blew up. It was during the VANOS/DME issues plaguing the then-new E46 ///M3. BMW had my car for 45 days while a new motor was sent from Germany. I was provided a 100,000 mile power train warranty and a 5-Series loaner the duration of that time my car was in the shop, so I didn't escalate the situation.

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

If this was another fishing expedition with all the crazy tech and stuff, I wouldn't hesitate to fight to get out of it. I guess my question is, being that it was a bolt, albeit a possible mechanic screw up, is it still a safety issue? I'd really appreciate any feedback from you guys.

Yes absolutely - I can see that the guibo bolts have a torque spec of 20Nm with a 45deg angle of rotation. Means of how I have this info is a different conversation, but I am looking at official BMW repair spec.

I would seriously doubt how well they read the instructions before/during replacement of such an important part. Also concerningly is that they replaced the eccentric (assuming front prop shaft to transfer box) shaft along with the Valvetronic. That basically sounds like "we need to do heart surgery but also we caught something is wrong with your arm so we took care of it too".

It is a safety issue at the very least on the dealer level. That bolt shearing off sounds like it was overtightened, and as you were accelerating to merge the highway it snapped. In BMW's defense they have the spec but obviously it is up to the service techs to follow it.

But this repair along with the Valvetronic is the concerning part for me. I think an avenue to explore would be "I bought this high-performance vehicle to enjoy it within legal limits, but also in the way it was designed. I am no longer comfortable owning this vehicle after the extent of the repairs done, especially in questionable manners"

[Esteban]

Looks like I was wrong about it being a small thing.

Good luck, cmyx6go.

Wondering if you get a P-Car if you'll change your username.

cmycayennego?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

But I guess you already know what it is.

My vintage open-wheel Formula Vee race car (based on VW Beetle platform) used the factory VW leather/rubber giubo to connect the steering column to the steering box. First thing that I did to that car was swap out the giubo with a mechanical universal joint.....

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Looks like I was wrong about it being a small thing.

Good luck, cmyx6go.

Wondering if you get a P-Car if you'll change your username.

cmycayennego?

cmypeppergo!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

cmypeppergo!

I like that. Get the Cayenne.

[cmyx6go]

I'm sorry for overwhelming the Confess thread with all my vehicle woes. I do have a thread in the F96 forum and there are some helpful members there but I value the opinion of my OT buddies.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

I'm sorry for overwhelming the Confess thread will all my vehicle woes. I do have a thread in the F96 forum and there are some helpful members there but I value the opinion of my OT buddies.

We're sorry for your troubles but we like conversing with you.

And trying to help.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

I'm sorry for overwhelming the Confess thread will all my vehicle woes. I do have a thread in the F96 forum and there are some helpful members there but I value the opinion of my OT buddies.

Is it the X6?