Jeep Wrangler tips over in IIHS small overlap crash test

sinopath · 05-09-2020, 04:39 AM

Probably the first time a small overlap test ends up in a rollover:

vt100 · 05-09-2020, 04:57 AM

That's probably the first time I'm glad I picked 4runner instead of Wrangler

N54Yankee · 05-09-2020, 06:22 AM

Back to the drawing board

Efthreeoh · 05-09-2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by N54Yankee

Back to the drawing board

Why? Based on the design of the off-road Wrangler and the requirements for the offset crash test, the barrier basically hits the side frame rail of the chassis. There really is no "fender" on the Jeep to absorb crash energy, so the energy just pushes the high-center of gravity off-road vehicle on it's side. Remember the Wrangler has a full roll cage, so rolling over is really not an issue.

Also the test is probably less realistic than an actual crash between two vehicles where both vehicles absorb crash energy by collapsing and rotating away from the impact point. Even if the Jeep were to hit a guardrail abutment the guardrail collapses (as it is designed to do). Hitting a concrete bridge abutment really isn't comfortable in any type of vehicle.

It is a Jeep after all, with a high center of gravity point and a long-stroke suspension designed for off road use. Compromised design for a test mostly meant for road vehicles. Plus how many Jeeps do you see with "If you can read this, Flip me over".

corn18 · 05-09-2020, 10:36 AM

It's a Jeep thing.

Smgs1992 · 05-09-2020, 01:47 PM

Never cared for jeeps anyway. Incredibly overpriced unchanged junk imo

Germanauto · 05-09-2020, 04:16 PM

The new Wrangler is such an improvement inside and out so this is disappointing to see.

Red Bread · 05-09-2020, 06:28 PM

Why would anyone expect a body on frame car to do well in crash testing? A Crown Vic wasn't exactly a safe thing and any pick ups only saving grace is tbat they're heavy AF. This isn't surprising or even something that influences my opinion about Wranglers.

NickyC · 05-09-2020, 06:50 PM

Seems like it was doing fine until the wheel got pushed under it, then it was up and away.

RM7 · 05-09-2020, 07:49 PM

Just roll it back over.

Efthreeoh · 05-10-2020, 08:28 AM

Should have run the test with the doors off for better effect.

GenXer · 05-10-2020, 09:45 AM

A Jeep rolling over?
How could a short, narrow, tall vehicle with high center of gravity roll over?
Say it isn't so!

SteveinArizona · 05-10-2020, 09:51 AM

The Wrangler has always been a crappy road car but an excellent off road warrior.

yco · 05-10-2020, 10:53 AM

rolling over is much much easier than most of the people thinks in reality..
and if you re higher on the ground especially, gives you harder chance to recover and easier to take 4 wheels off the ground..

A column looks fine in this example.. probably taken away most of the energy by rolling over.. wearing a seatbelt and not carrying heavy, small, sharp objects in the cabin is a life saver in the end in such moments.. and actually hitting from back on tire sections of an especially compact car for example is an easy way to shoot a Hollywood movie with a low budget.. seen many examples in real life.. this example was on a Camaro though..

0:13..

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_M5c45...=1echvdlo5wn3v

dgoldenz · 05-10-2020, 12:20 PM

Have a JL Wrangler. Love it. Fantastic DD. Haven’t rolled over yet.

stein_325i · 05-10-2020, 04:29 PM

Not surprising, in fact, Jeep owners already have made many jokes about it through accessories.

Ximian · 05-11-2020, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Remember the Wrangler has a full roll cage, so rolling over is really not an issue.

Wut

Rolling over is always an issue, especially in a crash safety test.

Quote:

Hitting a concrete bridge abutment really isn't comfortable in any type of vehicle.

Which is entirely the point of this test.

I would much rather be in

corn18 · 05-11-2020, 11:24 AM

Volvo will roll over when rock climbing. Pick your rollover

Ximian · 05-11-2020, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by corn18

Volvo will roll over when rock climbing. Pick your rollover

I disagree as it'll get stuck in the mud on the way to rock climbing.

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yco i'm just saying 6019 Rep 2,634 Posts Drives: E71 X6M '10 (sold) Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Istanbul & Kyiv iTrader: (0)	rolling over is much much easier than most of the people thinks in reality.. and if you re higher on the ground especially, gives you harder chance to recover and easier to take 4 wheels off the ground.. A column looks fine in this example.. probably taken away most of the energy by rolling over.. wearing a seatbelt and not carrying heavy, small, sharp objects in the cabin is a life saver in the end in such moments.. and actually hitting from back on tire sections of an especially compact car for example is an easy way to shoot a Hollywood movie with a low budget.. seen many examples in real life.. this example was on a Camaro though.. 0:13.. https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_M5c45...=1echvdlo5wn3v __________________ "Race car driving is like sex. All guys think they're good at it." Jay Leno
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