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      03-01-2018, 09:26 PM   #45
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I've seen way more shitty engineers than shitty PM's - don't know that I'm ready to call engineering a joke job.

But whatever, see it how you like. PMP test is a piece if cake, I'm sure you'd pass with no issues if needed. We should all be so lucky
I've worked with quite a few PMs, and I don't think what they do is a joke. However, if a company were in the midst of laying off non-essential personnel, I would certainly not be surprised if PMs were one the first ones to get the axe.

In my experience, only a few of them add any real value to a project by simply being able to pull their own weight. Sadly, the rest of the PMs I had a displeasure of working with weren't very helpful at all, but they sure enjoyed taking credit for all the work they didn't do.
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Again...you're every managers wet dream. If only we were all as smart as you.

Sometimes I wonder why my company even pays me for something so simple...
I see you’re biased because you’re a PM and I’ve offended you. Maybe you’re actually good at your job? Either way, I made my point.
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It's easier to be a shitty engineer than a shitty PMP. Engineering is a lot harder, so you'll naturally have people that don't excel. Project management takes no technical skills and is a simple job. Not saying it's unnecessary.
You obviously know nothing about project management.
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You obviously know nothing about project management.
You are obviously a project manager.
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You are obviously a project manager.
No, I am retired.
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OP, I don't think you used every study tool at your disposal. There are great training videos such as the one I've attached here below. Good luck on your next effort and really pay attention to this guy. It looks like he has it completely down.

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I see you’re biased because you’re a PM and I’ve offended you. Maybe you’re actually good at your job? Either way, I made my point.
You stated it's an easy job that containins no technical skills...and that you could pass the test first time without issue. I'm not biased, I can only assume you're the all knowing one that every company wants to hire.

I directed a group of 48 techs and engineers before moving. You are what we called the unicorn. Wish I could have hired someone with your expertise...would have paid out the wazoo for someone like you.
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