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08-07-2017, 10:47 PM | #47 |
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CPO cars are indeed checked out. But if one turns out to be a lemon in California (and from what I know in other states) you're out of luck.
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08-07-2017, 11:32 PM | #48 |
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08-08-2017, 09:06 AM | #49 | |
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Regarding the prices and as far as how people can afford (or really not) all this you can thank the marvels of modern financial engineering everythign is monthly payments aka how to rip off (or allow people to get ripped off) with all parties still smiling (like leeches extracting blood unnoticed) does anyone have any $$$ in the bank anymore? not that it would be doing anything in there anyway what yields < 1% I think the world is crazy and getting crazier and people calling me crazy for saying this because they are getting used to all the craziness CRAZY |
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08-08-2017, 11:07 AM | #50 |
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I'm not really sure my head can fully wrap around the idea of directly comparing an M4 and a corvette. I know they both generate performance numbers, but SO different. I'm thinking that if one appeals to you, the other is a bit offputting, no (and how about that brand new Civic-R, eh? more wings and slats than a fleet of Lambos - surely a better deal than a boring old 2 series)?
And FWIW, I felt that my 228 was a real bargain - expensive, but something I could not find elsewhere without nearly doubling the price. BMW does still make drivers cars, just not a lot of them - and fewer every day if you all keep bitching that they don't include free wifi, nav, cameras, etc. etc. etc. Nobody ever wrote about the radio reception in a Cobra. |
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08-08-2017, 05:26 PM | #51 |
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M4 and Corvette are not in the same segment. While I really dig the new 'vettes and Mustangs, these cars only appeal to certain folks in US. RoW kinda view them as uncouth curiosity liken to an annual circus parade.
Someone earlier touched on something that is true in the global market of new money. It's called brand bling. It's not about 1/4 or 0-60 to these people, it's about what you roll into a party with the brandiest of brands. Like handbags and shoes. People want to be associated to the brand's lifestyle. That is why folks buy Porsche, Ferrari, Benz, BMW, Jag... that GM or Hyundai does not necessarily resonate with their lifestyle. It's all psychological man. It's like the guys that buy the most powerful of Android phones and laugh at the guys that buys an iphone that produces weak Antutu scores. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT about our your OnePlus-whatever. |
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08-09-2017, 09:26 AM | #53 | |
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To the OP's point, those days are long gone. Today a 6 figure salary and some moderate disposable income is required to own a bottom of the barrel 3 series, unless you rent. And even then, a $400+ lease payment just so you can drive a car that can barely keep up with your run of the mill driving appliance, in both a straight line and in the corners, is frankly, a stupid proposition. So yes, if you HAVE to have the BMW brand, and have the supporting income or lack of sense to lease one, more power to you. For someone who's bought, owned, leased, and driven at least a dozen BMW in my adult driving career, I have to admit, it is very unlikely that I will buy another new BMW in my lifetime. Not when I consider all the other options available. Frankly, if I want performance, I can have performance that rivals or beat the best BMW has to offer, both in a straight line and in the corners, for a fraction of what a base model new BMW cost. If I want brand and prestige, and have the means to do so to own a BMW, I'd rather buy a Porsche.
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