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03-24-2017, 08:17 PM | #70 |
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BMW has lost its identity. Aside from a few remaining desirable cars like the ///Ms of the world, 240 and 440 it's entire lineup is filled with bloated numb cars that don't deserve the roundel badge. My E90 felt like a race car compared to the F30 I drove, and the F30's interior wasn't any better in design and was even a notch below in quality, so I chose to keep the superior BMW of the two.
Going off that, BMW clearly doesn't give a shit about their interiors as of late either. Merc, Audi, Porsche, and even Lexus (check out the interior of the new LS, it's full of passion unlike the 7) have stepped up their interior design and quality with their latest redesigns. BMW's aren't bad but they leave a whole lot to be desired. The brand as a whole reeks of GM syndrome: complacency and arrogance. Whoring out their reputation in the pursuit of next quarter's sales figures. Shareholders matter more than customers. The only BMW that would get my $$ in the future is the ///M3/4. Otherwise it's hello Porsche. |
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Embracing the future and our future.
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03-26-2017, 09:44 AM | #72 |
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Interesting article from Jalopnik (I know I know, it's Jalopnik)
"Everything is fine for BMW, in the same way that everything is fine when you wake up ten minutes before you’re supposed to take that final exam; or like how everything was “fine” for both the Atlanta Falcons and New England Patriots at halftime in this year’s Superbowl. Basically I’m saying BMW is officially in “oh shit” mode." Full article: http://jalopnik.com/bmw-oh-shit-oh-s...hit-1793627966
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03-26-2017, 03:12 PM | #73 | |
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Bmw continues to piss of their enthusiast core by continuing to dilute bmw m They piss off their loyal lifelong brand customers by simultaneously lowering quality and reducing standard maintanance. The fail to replace these traditional customers with the next generation of brand loyal customers. That would require them being aggressive with high quality electric vehicles (ie tesla with their fiercely loyal customers and put out good word just like bmw m fans of the past). Instead they put out "lifestyle" electric vehicles that attract superficial and least loyal type of customer. They fail to attract alternative buyers looking for either the driver or uniqueness oriented buyers as alternatives to audi or benz who share such a similar space. They are now as generic as it gets in this space. Scott as bmws official representative continues making a huge number of racist posts on the forum. Never seen a modern multinational company do that in current times. Truly mind boggling among all the above missteps. Would not be surprised if many people have already decided to go to another brand for their next purchase. At this point bmw is seen as an alt right or racist favored brand by some people. This number of people will only grow. Political opinions are hard to sway once they've been established. Scott has gone head first into joining the racist camp on behalf of bmw. You only limit yourself and your potential customer base. Strange. An entire generation of people are swearing off bmw for one or more of the above reasons. Right now they are not feeling the repercussions of this because of the huge explosion in Asian markets the last few years. That will eventually plateau and possibly shrink. Then when the house of cards starts crashing, everything listed above will be a "wow no shit, how did they not see that as a massive mistake". But just like real estate, stock market, etc crashes, they won't see the obvious until it's too late.
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I'm excited for the new X3 as my current lease is up in January.
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GM was the poster child for arrogance in the pursuit of short-term quarterly results. As a result the brand was severely punished by two generations of buyers. When I think of BMW today it reminds me of the bad old GM.
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Someone gets it. It's this floating disaster waiting to happen. When it comes, people will look back and say "duh it was obvious". Right now bmw especially their marketing people are oblivious and living in a fantasy land kept afloat by Asian markets. As he says, we have seen his happen with gm as well as others like vw and Toyota to some extent. Short term future looks dim, many more enthusiasts will run away from this next generation unnecessarily. Bmws course of action? Scott will just make fun of us and continue to make racist posts on bmws behalf. Can a company be any more tone deaf to its customers ?
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The G11's interior? Nice but been there done that, the material quality is right up there with the S-class, but its "meh" design just doesn't provide that special feeling of its competitors. |
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The Cadillac division, for example, is really struggling. The ATS and CTS are two of the slowest selling cars in America (~140 days on dealer lots). They didn't get anything right about those cars save for the chassis tuning, which journalists get a boner from but actual customers will overlook when they get frustrated by the infotainment system or cheap bits in the interior. Buick is only surviving due to its presence in the Asian market. It's an afterthought in the States for consumers. The Verano and Regal flopped, the Cascada is a decade-old design that only sells to fleets, and the new LaCrosse has received a very lukewarm reception from the press and its sales show for it. GMC? Don't even get me started. They're just rebadged Chevys. The brand only exists due to America's obsession with trucks and SUVs. A recent article from last week highlighted how GM's original plans for the new Equinox were so bad that they were scrapped. The previous gen Malibu, which came out just 4-5 yrs ago, was a disaster with the press. And boy can I not stand their marketing dept. (making fun of tech Ford has in their cars which they themselves will have eventually, "real people not actors" bs, etc.). GM is still a mismanaged company relative to the best from Japan and even VW (despite their emissions scandal). But yes, BMW is showing a lot of old school GM arrogance and complacency. Eventually it'll come back and bite them, probably once their core have abandoned everything the brand has to offer save for the ///M cars and likes of the Grand Coupes and M240. |
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