Donal Trump 2016

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by Chez

So you think huge multi-nationals should pay a lower percentage than your local family-run business?

Nope, but that's not true as often as the media would like you to think. Our corporate tax rate is wildly uncompetitive in the global economy - they should all pay less tax.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Biorin

That being said, I'd have to argue that quite a lot of people like Trump. Look at how he's doing. As far as the Constitution argument, well, that applies to every candidate, doesn't it?

People like him because they believe he can do something.

That is where everyone is wrong because 1 person, even if it is the POTUS won't change a thing.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by Arcades

It's more amusing to me people believe Trump will change anything if he even gets elected, which is still extremely unlikely unless everyone in the States has lost their fucking minds.

No one likes Trump. People who's stupid enough to vote for him deserves to get run over by a car.

I swear everyone has forgotten how US Constitution works. Worse thing that would happen is he for some god damn reason does get voted in, he won't get anything done. Did everyone forgot their education about something called the Senate and House of Representatives? Hello?

so... communist or criminal?

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by Arcades

People like him because they believe he can do something.

That is where everyone is wrong because 1 person, even if it is the POTUS won't change a thing.

People also like him because he's not afraid to be politically incorrect and is the direct opposite of the typical establishment politician. People also like Bernie Sanders, Cruz, etc. because they believe they can do something; it's not unique to Trump.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Biorin

People also like him because he's not afraid to be politically incorrect and is the direct opposite of the typical establishment politician. People also like Bernie Sanders, Cruz, etc. because they believe they can do something; it's not unique to Trump.

Trump also called Ted Cruz a pussy...which was comical.

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Trump also called Ted Cruz a pussy...which was comical.

Have you seen the short ads he posts on his Instagram (not that you strike me as the IG type)? Those can be pretty hysterical as well.

[John Tanglewood]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ae2...f9044849f56b9a

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by John Tanglewood

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ae2...f9044849f56b9a

Hilarious that that's Johnny Depp.

[deeLow]

If Donald wins the Illuminati is real

[Mike.]

Can we just vote for Larry David as stand in for Bernie?

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by Chez

He's actually talking about just making people pay their fair share. i.e. closing the loopholes that the super rich and massive corporations use in order to pay no/almost no tax.

Who gets to decide what's "fair?" Is it fair that the top 10% pay 90% of the taxes? Is it fair that the bottom 40% don't pay a dime?

Whenever I hear "fair share" I wonder who it's fair to?

[HELROTM3]

IMO - Trump scares the crap out of me and will set our country back to the Bush era.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by HELROTM3

IMO - Trump scares the crap out of me and will set our country back to the Bush era.

Bernie scares the crap out of me and will set our country back to the Cold War era - but on the other side of the Iron Curtain.

[HELROTM3]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Bernie scares the crap out of me and will set our country back to the Cold War era - but on the other side of the Iron Curtain.

I can't disagree more, but that's whats great about our country. We can all have an opinion.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Who gets to decide what's "fair?" Is it fair that the top 10% pay 90% of the taxes? Is it fair that the bottom 40% don't pay a dime?

Whenever I hear "fair share" I wonder who it's fair to?

Preeeeetty sure "fair" = someone giving me a ferrari for being awesome.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

I think he'll handily win Florida. He probably built most of the golf courses they all enjoy.

[canukgtp]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Preeeeetty sure "fair" = someone giving me a ferrari for being awesome.

I think that's in Bernie's platform...Trump will keep all the Ferrari's for himself!

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by Chez

He's actually talking about just making people pay their fair share. i.e. closing the loopholes that the super rich and massive corporations use in order to pay no/almost no tax.

Keep in mind that it is you and I who will pay more, it the 50% who already pay who will pay more, that is what is he talking about. I am about lets get the 50% who pay nothing paying something as well. Do the math going after the top 1% will not close the gap. You know of the top 1%, 60 to 70% of these people are individual business owners, included in this are Dr and Lawyers who already pay lots of Taxes and the employee people who also pay taxes.

I am personally not interested in paying more taxes for others can get more free services.

[Chez]

Originally Posted by Maestro

I am personally not interested in paying more taxes for others can get more free services.

Even if that means that those less fortunate than you, through no fault of their own, don't have access to medical care or education?

Note: I am not suggesting that anyone and everyone should be eligible for everything. For example, I am strongly opposed to the concept of freeloaders getting employment benefits etc when they can't be bothered to work. I'm talking about people in situations which don't allow them to afford these basic services.

[Biorin]

I think it's easy to look at it and say "hey, if every person pays just $50/whatever trivial amount more a year, we can pay for healthcare, food, and free ponies for every person - who doesn't want that?" Unfortunately, the reality is that government is both incredibly inefficient and has a very poor track record for utilizing those funds as they were actually intended. Government officials are not sent down from the heavens to improve the life of mankind - they are humans with their own interests at heart, susceptible to greed and flaws just as the rest of us (and those running the terribly evil large corporations) are. There are almost zero incentives for them to do the right thing, and there are millions (of dollars) of incentives for them to act in the interest of a specific group.

I personally do not feel that someone else should be forced to pay money to a cause simply because I am willing to do so, nor do I agree with the effectiveness of those economics. However, even if you remove that from the equation, there is a large gap between the idea and the reality of the execution.

Finally, as someone who does corporate tax for a living, the high taxes and enormous amounts of regulation and compliance required are much more of a burden on smaller businesses than the large ones. The big companies can afford to pay it; the small ones go out of business, and it furthers the issue.

[bbbbmw]

http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ts-your-money/

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Chez

So you think huge multi-nationals should pay a lower percentage than your local family-run business?

I think large multinationals should have tax rates competitive with the rest of the world so there isn't an incentive to move taxable income (or entire companies) elsewhere, which IMO is common sense. I also think comparisons of tax rates of large multinationals that pay corporate taxes and have shareholders that also pay taxes on dividends and cap gains on their investments to the taxes paid by local businesses is far less relevant than the tax expense paid by a large multinational to locate its business in the U.S. vs. elsewhere. Obama, Bernie and other progressive/socialist/democrats simply want to bang on the populist drum to tell people they are getting screwed, work them up over ridiculous comparisons and tell them they can fix all their problems rather than address fundamental issues. Makes no sense to make it prohibitively expensive to do business in the country.

As far as the election goes, 35% for Trump means 65% of NH republicans want someone else. It will get far more interesting now that people have started dropping out. I think it could be Rubio, Kasich or even Bush as unlikely as it seems. Never know, it could be Trump or Cruz but there is still a long road to travel.

I think Bernie is in the dem race to project Hilary as reasonable and moderate ahead of the general election. The problem Hilary has is that every time she shows her face or opens her mouth to talk down to someone, she makes the people that hate her hate her even more and picks up a few more haters. She's working on losing voters, not gaining them.