Toyota Supra’s Sales Dominance Over Nissan Z Is… Over

[MmmmmM2]

And yet, I have still seen 1 Z on the road since they have been released.

I see a lot of Supras.

Nissan dealers have tons of 2024 Zs sitting on their lots, but good luck finding a manual Supra. They are unobtanium.

I do dig the Z, but it's just not special enough to trade my M2C for.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/toyota...ssan-z-is-over

[LH44]

I see more Koenigseggs or Paganis driving around than new Zs. Not kidding.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by FC4

I see more Koenigseggs or Paganis driving around than new Zs. Not kidding.

I believe you 100%.

[Burrcold]

I would assume it's more a product of availability vs desirability.

[BlkGS]

I have started seeing more Zs around. I don't hate it. I don't like it as much as the 370Z, but I don't hate it.

I think Nissan missed the boat by releasing it as basically the same car as the Q60 has been for like... 10 years?

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

I would assume it's more a product of availability vs desirability.

Lots of Zs available. Not a lot of Supras.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

Lots of Zs available. Not a lot of Supras.

Exactly my point.

[Humdizzle]

i hardly see them either but i believe the numbers...

nissan is offering like $5000+ off sticker on these now (2024 models). The Nismo models are like $8-10k off if you search. So like 39k for a Nissan Z vs 57k starting for the supra.
Its a compelling argument for the nissan, especially if you just want to cruise around town and feel cool. Granted, you don't even get an LSD in the base model.

https://www.theautopian.com/you-can-...mment-page-1/#!

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

i hardly see them either but i believe the numbers...

nissan is offering like $5000+ off sticker on these now (2024 models). The Nismo models are like $8-10k off if you search. So like 39k for a Nissan Z vs 57k starting for the supra.
Its a compelling argument for the nissan, especially if you just want to cruise around town and feel cool. Granted, you don't even get an LSD in the base model.

https://www.theautopian.com/you-can-...mment-page-1/#!

Compelling, yes...However, we are almost in March of 2025 and all the Z models sitting on lots are 2024 models.

[spazzyfry123]

I have never seen a Z on the road. It's not regional, as I travel fairly frequently. Wild to think that I have never seen one.

[tturedraider]

It may be because they are rwd only, but I cannot recall ever seeing a Supra in Chicagoland.

[M-technik-3]

See plenty of RWD cars and I live in NE, I have yet to see a new Z. I see the same 3 Supra's nearly every weekend. and add in the two E90 M3's that burble by.

[kudos]

It's a very boring looking sports car. It would take a lot of aftermarket work but it could look really cool as a tuner car.

[Alfisti]

It's a really strange car, I have seen just one in the wild and it looks new and exciting but old and tired all at the same time. Just weird.

When I look at the sticker price I cannot help but cross shop against better low mileage used examples that are much more exciting. Two door cars really do need to be exciting or I don't see the point in the practicality penalty when you can get a M2 for example.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

It's a really strange car, I have seen just one in the wild and it looks new and exciting but old and tired all at the same time. Just weird.

When I look at the sticker price I cannot help but cross shop against better low mileage used examples that are much more exciting. Two door cars really do need to be exciting or I don't see the point in the practicality penalty when you can get a M2 for example.

M2 is 2x the money if Nissan Dealers keep these priced with the discounts.
I agree, the looks are a mixed bag, I like the rear side look.

Also hearing about Nissan teetering on the brink and slashing models/production is going to hurt customer confidence walking into that showroom.
If Nissan survives and people can pick up these Z’s at a sizable discount it (could) actually be a good deal and hold resale after some years. (Buy it cheaper, it’s resale won’t crater due to limited sport cars being made and it does have a historic lineage)

[ShocknAwe]

Saw one in the wild the other day. I was underwhelmed. Not surprising they're not selling. Total dud.

[MmmmmM2]

I like how it looks from some angles, but for the price, it just isn't worth it. They would sell these all day at $40K.

Might be able to get a new for $40K at some point if dealers keep discounting them.

[Alfisti]

TBH I never understood heavy two cars. You don't get that sports car feel and you don't get the practicality of a sports sedan

[XutvJet]

I have yet to see one in Kansas City or the many other cities across the country I've visited since the new Zs introduction.

My buddy in Kansas City just paid a $4K ADM to get a fresh off the boat blue/black 2025 Supra 6MT from a dealer in upstate NY. He had been on a waiting list for nearly a year with 3 local Toyota dealers. He didn't want to wait any longer as those dealers had no idea if the car he wanted would be coming in. He found one on a boat and took it. Super rare color combo as well. I wouldn't pay ADM on a car, but he wanted what he wanted. Sweet car though. Stunning color in person.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

TBH I never understood heavy two cars. You don't get that sports car feel and you don't get the practicality of a sports sedan

Well, technically my M2C is a heavy 2 door sports car. But I just love it to death anyway.

[Davil]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

Well, technically my M2C is a heavy 2 door sports car. But I just love it to death anyway.

It doesn’t feel heavy though. Lovely car.

Funny that the 1620kg M2C is getting to be on the lighter side these days. 992.2 is 1700kg.

[BroDoze]

Z is total meh. I’ve seen 5 or 6 in person, sat in s few.
Such a shame. Nissan has such incredible engineering history and capability.